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Re: “Stealing Susan B.?

Susan B. Anthony was a passionate advocate for a better society through supporting women's independence - their rights to education, employment, etc. The context of her 1875 speech on "Social Purity" [which sounds like she is on stage in an auditorium, not writing legislation], she says this: "Marriage never will cease to be a wholly unequal partnership until the law recognizes the equal ownership in the joint earnings and possessions. The true relation of the sexes never can be attained until woman is free and equal with man. Neither in the making nor executing of the laws regulating these relations has woman’s had the slightest voice. The statutes for marriage and divorce, for adultery, breach of promise, seduction, rape, bigamy, abortion, infanticide—all were made by men. They, alone, decide who are guilty of violating these laws and what shall be their punishment, with judge, jury and advocate all men, with no woman’s voice heard in our courts, save as accused or witness, and in many cases the married woman is denied the poor privilege of testifying as to her own guilt or innocence of the crime charged against her." It reads to me that she would like women to get involved and write the law around abortion [these laws] "were all made by men." To distort this to serve another purpose is quite sad and really wrong. Let's let Ms. Anthony speak for herself: http://www.pbs.org/stantonanthony/resource…

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Posted by Barbra Ann on 11/20/2014 at 7:24 AM

Re: “Bill Cosby, under fire, is scheduled for April show in Rochester

I am offended by the old allegations of sexual abuse of multiple women by BILL CLINTON. He was never charged or convicted of any of those, although they got him for lying in the Lewinsky affair and was impeached for it. I can't stand seeing and hearing Bill Clinton in interviews and on the campaign trail. Why does the media treat Clinton differently than Bill Cosby?

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Posted by Stephen on 11/20/2014 at 6:49 AM

Re: “City schools' suspensions challenged

The single biggest factor in the success of any school is its culture. Research strongly supports this and no one would disagree. The suspension study alone is fine but it will no doubt be followed by central office action and this will make things worse-not better. The D and C is already advocating for more alternative to suspension rooms not knowing that ATS and others programs don't work. I would challenge anyone that doubts me to go into a few of these rooms unannounced. Just do it. When will we stop trying to mandate fixes that rely on human emotions?

You can't mandate compassion or empathy or other emotions. We must fix the heart of the problem, the school culture. We must change the culture at its core and not get distracted by changing policies or procedures. Schools are about people and emotion first. Everyone has forgotten this. Here is your solution....Give the schools back to those who are in them. Pride and ownership drive caring and responsibility. Maslow was right. Environments that are family-like are more conducive to learning. These cultures will only happen if schools like the Pilot Schools in Boston are created. Just google Pilot Schools in Boston and be ready to cry about how far behind we are. The fixes must start in the classrooms, not the offices. The board, union leaders and the superintendent must trust that there are teachers, parents and principals who are more capable than they are.

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Posted by Gotta Say It Again on 11/20/2014 at 6:42 AM

Re: “Project Censored

I'm glad City has chosen to present Project Censored again. Hasn't it been several years since this annual report was covered?

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Posted by pononymous on 11/19/2014 at 10:56 PM

Re: “City schools' suspensions challenged

I so appreciate comments on this issue because they mean that some people still care about public education. The comments reflect exactly the complexities of preparing and schooling children who live in socio-emotional climates of desperation and despair as we fight to prepare them for college and careers yet to be discovered.
The struggle that those of us who grappled with and eventually vetted this report is that just like people in the ancient human societies that we force public school students to study academic concepts when we fundamentally understand that when one’s basic needs of food, clothing, shelter, safety and familial love are not met, then the intellectual pursuit of formalized education is a moot point. Therefore, when a child reveals through their behavior what we already know to be true (they are not socially, emotionally or mentally prepared to appreciate compulsory [forced] education) then we need to believe them the first time. As educational experts, conscientious reporters or astute politicians, we need to consider; is it worth it to force children to go to school if the end result is that they will 1) Keep everyone else’s children from learning; 2) have students arrested for minor infractions; or 3) observe in retrospect how empires (a.k.a. the United States) decline? In any of the above scenarios; as the report shows; the Black and Brown people of America will be criminalized, blamed and abandoned in model that support forced education. The time has come for us to draw a line in the sand… are we for or against public schools putting out children who are not prepared to learn at the levels dictated by the State for various reasons or are we the preparing ourselves to be the safe room that those children run to when all hell breaks loose? ?

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Posted by watdi33 on 11/19/2014 at 10:02 PM

Re: “City schools' suspensions challenged

If you are not in the RCSD schools environment you won't see the reality. If you just visit the "elite schools" that are Magnet ones having the underground privilege to choose their students you won't see the real problems planted here. When these students go into society they are going to be the problems and the law is not going to stop sending them to prison for big crimes. Like the student who shoot Officer DiPonzio. Warnings came in elementary but nobody listen to the teacher's complainings.Then having a sixth grader with an electronic device on his ankle for monitoring him as a juvenile offender. But it was ignore everything he could did bullying others. Suspensions looks bad to the eyes of some people but the district needs to put in place serious consequences to the students that do wrong. Minor infractions for some people seems normal and innocent. But when things scale to the point like other states shootings everyone is surprised why that happened. But in reality nobody wants to face the reality of the problems. Our society took the responsibility from the parents and now sadly many parents are not taking responsibility to raise their children as good and productive citizens of this country. Stop giving everything to them. Make them accountable for their own children. They brought into this World now take responsibility.

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Posted by EYEHAWKQUEEN on 11/19/2014 at 9:13 PM

Re: “City schools' suspensions challenged

MIchael, Gottasayit, kamakazee78... it would seem as if you folks really know what you are talking about so I would ask... tell us what should be done to really change the RCSD and its policies with suspensions ?

I offered one suggestion of an in-school suspension program with more individual monitoring to get the home work done during the day instead of throwing the student out of school. And, for the student (s) to get ahead of the education needed to graduate, on time, in 12 years ,at the age of 17 or 18 years of age through in-school suspensions.


WHAT SHOULD WE DO IN YOUR OPINION to make things work ?

Thank you.


Please...we already know that Mayoral Control, more money thrown at the problems, and common core do not seem to be the answers.

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Posted by crm135790 on 11/19/2014 at 9:02 PM

Re: “Stealing Susan B.?

Thank you Christine. Some people don't understand that. I do. I have nothing else to add to the reply I have already given.

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Posted by sean on 11/19/2014 at 6:31 PM

Re: “Stealing Susan B.?

Reminder: We love to hear from you, but please do not attack each other. You'll find yourself edited or deleted. And who wants to deal with that kind of rejection?

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Posted by Christine Carrie Fien on 11/19/2014 at 5:11 PM

Re: “Human toll of school suspensions is devastating

Tim, you seem to be very reluctant to deals with the stats presented in the report and the impact of trouble making students on the ability of others to get an education. For example, the report said that less than 5% of students account for 73% of the suspensions. The remaining ones do not represent an epidemic of suspensions. Want to bet that those 5% represent more than 73% of the out of school days?

What do those 5% mean? Well, that is an average of one in every class. One person that takes the teacher's full time attention that the other 95% deserve to receive. At a school like East High, if it is average, it means 100 of the troubled students. And a single person is supposed to deal with that at the high school?

Finally, the study poorly defined the 88% of minor incidents, since it also said that 88% were non violent infractions, as thugh non violent means insignificant. Selling drugs and theft are non violent. Are they minor? In the study, the referenced minor infractions all involved females. Not a single example for males. And no data was presented to identify differences I suspensions by sex.

You really need to do a better job presenting the background and not simply whine.

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Posted by Michael on 11/19/2014 at 5:06 PM

Re: “Human toll of school suspensions is devastating

And the racial angle is ridiculous. Seriously talk to teachers, and students. You are getting one view. This is not journalism. This is a PR stunt. School safety is at stake here. This is not the time to be playing politics and mimicking the nonsense that is playing around in this country.

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Posted by kamakazee78 on 11/19/2014 at 4:47 PM

Re: “Human toll of school suspensions is devastating

"Tugging on a teacher" ? How about assaulting staff and students? City, did you drink the kool-ade?

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Posted by kamakazee78 on 11/19/2014 at 4:43 PM

Re: “DINING NEWS: East meets West

You missed one terrific to visit for Thanksgiving dinner, the Holloway House in Bloomfield. It is in a beautiful building dating to 1808 and has been offering Tday dinner (a trDition) for many lng years. They will serve 600-700 meals on Thursday, so you know it is delicious. I was just there for lunch yesterday and would recommend it to anyone looking for a great meal with a relaxed atmosphere. Reservations at absolutely a must.

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Posted by Michael on 11/19/2014 at 4:34 PM

Re: “City schools' suspensions challenged

The spin on this subject is disgraceful. What are the setting up for us to believe? Any one that works for the RCSD knows that the suspensions are low. Since '08 superintendent Bizzard implemented a no suspension regime that has changed very little by 2014. In the D&C article the data released noted that the actual said RCSD suspension data was not completely valid. What? If that is the case what is the purpose of the data?!! Principals are targeted in a negative way if they have many suspensions in their building. No principal wants to be known as the suspension king so where is the data on high suspensions? The arrest?? I have seen kids bringing drugs and weapons to school and NOT being suspended. Journalist may want to talk to the staff that actually work IN the schools. School board members may want to visit the schools ( not just the elementary schools) to know what is going on before they make comments to the press and look foolish. Journalist may want to discuss counter arguements in their articles to give the public a 3 D view on what is really going on. Try asking this question: How much money does the district lose when a student is suspended?
This article and the faux concern for our students has disturbed me more than any subject about the RCSD. It is negligent and irresponsible. Safety is a huge concern . We have a few menacing students wrecking havoc in our schools because they can. They run the schools because they are untouchable. Students do not feel safe. What are we going to do about that? Why is there no discussion about attracting students to want to come to school? The minuscule vocational programs is like throwing a styrofoam life board to a person stranded in the middle of the Atlantic Ocean . The canned answer we get is- we will have to train the teachers and principals so that they can better serve their students needs. Really? They didn't train their teachers to roll out the new common core , do you think they will spend the money and time to adopt more training? Please! 2015 will mark the 20 year anniversary that RCSD faced a horrendous tragedy. The death of Stephanie Givens. We need to make sure we don't see anything like that ever again. Having a Wild West mentality and ignoring that big fat white with pink polka dot elephant in the room is something we cannot afford. Not now. Not ever.

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Posted by kamakazee78 on 11/19/2014 at 4:31 PM

Re: “Stealing Susan B.?

Clarification: The person who had the abortion was Susan's sister-in-law. She commented in her diary about the situation. She was concerned about her sister-in-laws' health.

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Posted by Phyllis on 11/19/2014 at 4:03 PM

Re: “DINING: The edible gift guide

Dollop Frosting by local enterpreneur and available at Wegmans and Harts

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Posted by ken on 11/19/2014 at 3:35 PM

Re: “[UPDATED] Legality of McFadden's appointment to RHA questioned

For those who are not happy w/the current mayor's appointees, have no fear. The mayor has shown no leadership to date, just going here and there to garner, "support from sister cities" rather than actually doing something in the hole that she was elected to. The new mayor that will be elected, I don't see warren being re-elected, I gar-aun-tee, will look @ that situation first hand and make it right.

Anyone remember when Duffy intervened and ousted DiBiase and Shaw? At that time, RHA was a cash cow and had many ties w/the city, i.e. employees, civil service and so on , so the Mayor @ that time wanted more control. Unfortunately, then Mayor Duffy had his sights elsewhere and left it alone.

mcfadden announced he wanted to make law that potential renters receiving sect, 8 could not be discriminated way of how their rent was paid. Spoiler alert! Tell many of these landlords that don't have choices, you'll see a mass exodus in the rental market. There is a reason landlords don't like to rent to those who are on sect. 8 ENTITLEMENT programs.

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Posted by badthingk on 11/19/2014 at 3:35 PM

Re: “Stealing Susan B.?

I believe this isn't politicizing. I believe this is informing. Information is educational and balancing. Informed opinion and knowing some of the core traits of Susan B Anthony expand public knowledge of who she was and what she advocated for in her time. Thank you for expanding the knowledge about Susan B Anthony, Deborah Hughes. Well and eloquently stated!

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Posted by MC Myers on 11/19/2014 at 2:04 PM

Re: “Stealing Susan B.?

Unfortunately both sides use Susan B. Anthony and others for their own purposes. These are historical people who lived, thought and acted in their time, not our's. Unless they discussed an issue which is contemporary to us today and made their views plain on that issue, we don't have the right to say "This person thought X", like whether Lincoln would oppose health insurance or Frederick Douglass would be a Republican today. One of the hardest things for human beings to say is "I don't know," because it admits our ignorance and our fear of not knowing and being judged for it. I don't know whether Susan B. Anthony would support or oppose abortion today. I don't know whether Susan B. Anthony was a lesbian or not. I don't know whether Lincoln would support the Affordable Care Act today. And neither does anyone else. Shame on you Ms. Hughes for politicizing Susan B. Anthony and shame on the Susan B. Anthony List for using Susan B. Anthony's name to raise money for your own causes. Be original, like Susan B. Anthony was, not a copy of someone she wasn't.

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Posted by sean on 11/19/2014 at 12:53 PM

Re: “City schools' suspensions challenged

Craig R. Moffitt ‏@MrHenrietta
Data: Suspensions a problem in city school district http://on.rocne.ws/1uHgZr5 via @DandC ... make the suspension in school and make the students do homework all day.

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Posted by crm135790 on 11/18/2014 at 7:24 PM

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