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REN SQUARE: [UPDATE 2:25 p.m.] Council unlikely to support the project 'as is'

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Unless Renaissance Square leaders are willing to compromise, they'll have a hard time getting City Council to approve legislation to let the project move ahead.

Mayor Bob Duffy and members of City Council reached unanimous agreement on their position on Ren Square this morning, and they plan to present that position to County Executive Maggie Brooks and transit authority head Mark Aesch next week. Council members say that the meeting will be at 3 p.m. Wednesday at City Hall, and that it will be open to the public.

Duffy and Council members agreed this morning not to disclose their position until they meet with Brooks and Aesch, Council members say.

Will city officials insist on changes to the plan?

"I can tell you that as we've said consistently, the current plan is not something that we can fully support," Council member Dana Miller said this morning.

Is the project in jeopardy if Ren Square officials aren't willing to compromise?

"I certainly hope that they would come to the table with an open mind and a willingness to work with us," Miller said. "We're interested in what's best for downtown, and I think they are, too."

Over the past few weeks, Duffy and most of the members of City Council have expressed concern about Ren Square:

  • That the bus station component is too large, and that its location and design will hurt adjacent housing development.
  • That Ren Square leaders will never be able to raise enough money to build the theater component. Some city officials don't want the buildings at the corner of Main and Clinton - the theater site - torn down until other uses can be explored. They also don't want an empty lot at that corner if the theater doesn't materialize.
  • That the city should keep a city-owned empty lot on Mortimer Street, which was to be part of Ren Square, because it might be needed for parking downtown as development continues.

Ren Square officials have asked that Council approve two aspects of the project by the end of July: giving them permission to initiate eminent-domain proceedings to acquire the private properties on the theater site, and transferring the city-owned lot on Mortimer Street to Ren Square.

Ren Square officials have been stepping up the pressure on City Council to approve the project, as have construction-union members. Ren Square leaders say that unless Council approves the eminent-domain proceedings and the transfer of the Mortimer Street lot by the end of July, the project will lose its federal funding and can't be built.

Next Wednesday's meeting was originally to be held at transit-authority offices, but at this morning's meeting, Duffy and Council members agreed that it should be held at City Hall. And while some officials have suggested that the meeting would be held as an "executive session," closed to the public because property acquisition might be discussed, Duffy and Council agreed that it should be open.

Because the meeting is called by City Council, said Miller, "it's our decision whether to go into executive session."

UPDATE 2:25 p.m.

By Jeremy Moule

Renaissance Square spokesman Mike Power says that Brooks and Aesch are receptive to a public meeting on Wednesday.

But will project planners be open to discussing changes to the plan? It depends.

"If there's any modest changes that are reasonable, we're certainly willing to listen to them and proceed from there," Power says. "Everybody's got to be reasonable and realize this is the end of the process, not the beginning."

There have been multiple opportunities over the years to provide input on the project, Power says. But that time has now passed, he says.

"It is time to make sure our community doesn't lose $24 million and 3,700 jobs," Power says.

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Rochester99 said on Jul. 10, 2009 at 4:13pm

That is the threat that County Executive Maggie Brooks is projecting on the city, city council and the Mayor. Change anything and you will lose $24 million and 3,700 jobs! First of all, the $24 million is quite mobile...sure changes may delay the $24 million but since Democrats control the public purse strings from Rochester..to Albanny and Washington D.C., I am sure the Mayor and Senator Schumer can obtain these funds down the road AFTER a much better plan is developed. A plan that truly benefits downtown, the city and the Region.
And to toss around a highly exaggerated job figure (3,700 jobs) during a deep recession is irresponsible and distorts the facts. Any responsible public figure would use the term "full time equivalent for the life of the project" ' as a accurate assessment of direct jobs created. At most I would estimate 500-700 full time equivalent for the life of the project. But realize that any alternative plan would also have similar number of jobs created. The time frame and project scope may change but they would still create similar number of jobs.
What never is discussed is the number of net jobs created AFTER construction. You could probably count them on your fingers!

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andrew stainton said on Jul. 11, 2009 at 9:40pm

It's definitely getting interesting now. If City Council and Mayor Duffy would like to improve Ren Square, the first thing to do is jettison the idea of a bus station at main and clinton. this is the urban design equivalent of parking your car in your living room. It makes NO SENSE. This nonsensical and unworkable plan cannot be fixed, because eastbound buses travelling main street cannot reach the station in any practical way.

The way out of this fiasco is to move to an intemodal station at central avenue, redevelope the block to preserve historic buildings and land for housing development. The question is whether or not City council will simply move to make a TERRIBLE PLAN less bad, or whether they will go all the way to a new project boundaries that allow the community to fashion a plan that actually meets the energy and downtown development challenges of our time.

Mike Powers comment that there has been opportunity for public input is fallacious. At no time has public input about the project been allowed where the bus routes were known. They have been hidden from the begginning --for good reason-- they are unworkable. Any revision that keeps a bus station at main and clinton will share this fatal flaw.

It's been many years and many millions of dollars and still there is no plan that Mike Powers and Mark Aesch ware willing to answer detailed questions about. Time for new leadership on the project and a very new vision. Let's hope City council has the "right stuff".

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