Thank you City for your hard work and efforts to promote these hot spots in the Rochester scene. Looking forward to this years polls and winner announcements. We more folks to promote the #ROC like you do. As a local business owner (of www,Peppernutz.com ) - we need your support to drive folks into our economy.
Glad that the white elephant in the living room is finally being addressed. I would like to know why NYS makes such senseless laws concerning patients that take ADHD/ADD meds. I know controll substance abuse is real, but why do I need to make an appointment with my dr. Every month to get a script? Why does NYS lawmakers view us as drug abusers? Is this a tactic to demean those of us who are mentally ill ? Another slap in the face.
Anti-fracking kooks are the same Luddite Neanderthals who refuse to vaccinate their kids against dreadful diseases; consult a horoscope before getting out of bed in the morning; enjoy the blessings of modern transportation, industry, and agriculture while sanctimoniously denouncing them; and who think the Koch brothers are secretly controlling their thoughts by means of special rays.
I'd like to add a few things..
Winter cycling (or even bike commuting at all) isn't something one has to dive in right away. You can start riding on nice days and slowly as your skills, interests, and accumulation of gear builds then you might find yourself riding on worse and worse weather days.
You don't have to be a complete bike nerd to ride a bike. though you might become one.
Not represented in this article (but who exist) are female cyclists, cyclists who commute to blue collar or white collar jobs, cyclists who don't spend over a grand on their bikes, and people who bike because that's all they can afford and public transportation is just not cutting it.
For new cyclists out there... the aesthetics of your bike are far less important than getting out on the road (or trail). If you ride a Huffy but you ride that's what counts. Don't be shy or embarrassed to go into a bike store for help.
I was wrong in my use of the word "strident." Those bicyclists aren't harsh and grating, as the definition shows. They're frank and open, and passionate. :)
I'm not a practicing lawyer, so you take what I say with a grain of salt. However, I have represented myself in city court before and successfully defeated contempt of cop like charges (e.g. disorderly conduct, etc.) before.
Pro-cop and cop apologists immediately try to discredit people that, god forbid, suggest the thought of disobeying a police officer. Let me elaborate.
The police are public servants that exist to enforce the law and prevent crime. We can all agree on this because it's unequivocal fact. The opposing viewpoints come down to, generally, how police officers accomplish their job. I don't want to turn this into a debate on selective enforcement of laws, misconduct/contempt of cop, and other related topics. This isn't the place.
The point I want to make is that, and there is legal precedent -- this is not my opinion, that the police do not have the legal authority to order you to do something solely because their a police officer. There are, however, many different situations where they can to enforce the law or protect themselves from harm (the latter is frequently abused to unlawfully order bystanders to leave the area to prevent them from recording an officer, or they're asked to outright stop recording -- this is how Emily Good ended up arrested a few years ago).
All that being said is why I commented in the first place. As vehemently as I disagree with George's comment about "ignoring a simple request is the kind of stupid and irrational righteous insolence that many people have for authority", I pick my own battles. It's one thing to go out of your way to challenge an officer's authority because you have a chip on your shoulder and something else entirely refusing to obey an unlawful order to move or stop recording an officer when you suspect misconduct on their part.
Lastly, I have some choice words for George and Sean. We live in a world where many people possess the mental capacity to challenge authority when it is abused, instead of blindly following along like a sheep. When police officers stop abusing their authority, more people will be disinclined to challenge it. Trying to paint these people as "disrespectful" or "insolent" doesn't do you any favors.
In RPD's case, they have a long history of misconduct and abuse of their authority, which instills distrust. Incidents like this do not help reinforce any trust. Believe me, I have all the respect for the stereotypical honest police officer trying to do his job. I'm not going to come up excuses for officers that do something they shouldn't have, trying to justify "all the crap they deal with" to throw out logic and slam three teenage kids with a plethora of violations because they offended an officer's sense of authority and importance.
We need them to but I wouldn't hold my breath on it.
When police in Greece or Brighton or Pittsford start arresting kids for waiting for the bus, then we can take this issue seriously. Oh wait, that NEVER happens. Kids in Pittsford, Brighton, Irondequoit use drugs and alcohol all the time. How many are prosecuted every year? How many blacks in the city are cautioned or arrested by cops going about their daily business? A lot more. Should EVERYONE follow the law? Yeah. Should everyone be treated equally under the law? Yeah. Does that actually happen in real life? Yeah right!
You have captured the frustration in our Monroe County perfectly! I'd like to remind folks that when you hear the terminology to "ban fracking" we are not just talking about a drilling technique. The issues of toxic waste and toxic water is a grave issue! Ever wonder why PA wants to ship this stuff out of state?? No one talks about the great economic gain of having toxic injection wells on their land. No one wants frack waste water sprayed on their road.
Monroe County, like Erie, has a major water source connecting to our Great Lake Ontario. The Genesee River starts in PA........that alone should be cause for concern! We need our own county legislature to address the toxic industry around drilling for shale gas.
kudos - great article and great to see it out there in such a way to break the barriers.
Why do wealthy foundations produce reports that tell us what we already know and then turn around and ask for more money for themselves? If they want to really make a difference then they should spend more of their savings. If the Community Foundation spent half of its money it could join with a proven charter school group, build ten new schools for five thousand kids and begin to change history. Instead they spend a little, do too little and talk too much.
According to the report, the poverty rate for intact families in Monroe County is just over 3%. For deadbeat dad households with young children, it's just under 52%.
Do you really need somebody to draw you a picture?
About fifty years ago, before flagrant disrespect for the law and society's common values became commonplace.
Let's see.....How long has the mayor, city council and RCSD board been Democrat?
The same with most other large NE cities, including Detroit.
Stop it. The "war on poverty" has only produced more poverty. Stop "helping" so much.
Of course these anti poverty programs have made 1000's in the Washington DC area rich. The counties around DC are the richest in the country, and the federal government keeps churning out "program" after "program", and none of them help. That's wasted money that should be left in everyone's pocket.
Go to Youtube and search for Walter E. Williams, Thomas Sowell and Milton Freidman and their thoughts on capitalism, the free market and fairness
What time period was that exactly? When the cops were all pillars of society, icons of morality and rightness that deserved our unreserved trust and compliance? Oh right...
Once upon a time, the police were renowned in our society for their dedication to the law and were deeply respected by everyone. If they told you to do something, you DID IT, not because they could threaten you but because they deserved your respect. Now people, especially young people and people in the city treat them deplorably. They have to deal with the worst of the worst in our society. Now these kids were innocently standing on a sidewalk, waiting for a bus. But the police don't necessarily know that. And the kids should have realized that. It is unfortunate it went as far as it did. But maybe we can learn a lesson from it.
You said "If a police officer tells you to move, you do not legally have to move unless you are actively committing a crime, interfering with an investigation, and so on."
Really? Is this sound legal advice? And what if an officer asks you to stop? Can you refuse to do that too? What if an officer is dispersing a crowd? Do you still refuse to move? Ignoring a simple request is the kind of stupid and irrational righteous insolence that many people have for authority. Jeez, just move along will ya?
Heaven forbid that government employees should be help accountable for their job performance, like every other grownup.
Fire them all.
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