I cannot fully express how bad of an idea I think this is. And it's illegal - not just on constitutional grounds, but I believe an illegal use of zoning codes
What a great idea! Adam McFadden is a visionary leader.
I must agree that this is not a good idea. In my humble, but staunch opinion --- the last thing we need is another war on petite, street-level, drug dealers. We know what that has reaped over the past 4 or 5 decades --- jails and prisons filled with mainly black and Hispanic youth (many of whom are literally slinging drugs as a means of survival) --- since in many cases they have little to no education; no job skills, and often, no hope --- while the real culprits behind the multi-trillion dollar, illegal drug industry continue to go free. It IS time for a war on drugs (a real one) --- on the big-shot, supper-wealthy, mafia-types who ship drugs into the harbors, and fly them into the private airstrips of this corrupt nation --- by the ton-loads. I have often wondered --- how is it that young children in our neighborhoods can tell you where the illegal drug spots are, but the Rochester Police Department, Monroe County Sheriffs, New York State Police, FBI, CIA, ATF, Secret Service, Homeland Security, and other law enforcement agencies that we have probably never even heard of (with all of their sophisticated intelligence-gathering methods, and super-technology --- technology which I once heard Dick Gregory say can spot a gnat on a dog's behind from outer space) --- can't seem to find the illegal drugs that flow through Rochester, and other urban communities --- like water flows from High Falls? I would propose as an alternative --- that y'all (city and county leaders) help pull people together who are sick-and-tired-of-being-sick-and-tired of our neighborhoods being flooded with illegal drugs, and weapons, and develop a comprehensive plan by which we make a concerted, collective, deadly serious demand that those listed above do more to solve the problem NOW --- by going to the root, as opposed to continuing to fiddle around the edges. WE NEED A MOVEMENT.
We're already dealing with an out of control police force, and Councilmember Adam McFadden's solution is to give Chief Sheppard and his thugs a blank check to sweep the streets? How about some real solutions like ending the Drug War and a serious conversation on ending the school-to-prison-pipeline.
Two points: Lovely Warren should debate Alex White, and equating public debate between candidates with private editorial endorsement processes is ridiculous.
That Warren is heavily favored to win is no excuse for ducking debates. She was heavily favored to lose the primary and we saw what happened. Moreover, who is favored to win has nothing to do with it. Ms. Warren has a moral obligation. Forums which took place during the primary do not excuse her from such scrutiny in the general. A debate between Alex and Lovely would be good for them both, and for the city. I hope Lovely will reconsider, and honor the desire for a more inclusive civic life here, which helped drive her own primary victory. I would qualify this by pointing out that the format, the rules, the questioners, and other such matters, are legitimate topics for negotiation and clarity between campaigns and debate sponsors. Advance attention has not always been given such matters in the past, and fair play has been diminished.
I take strong exception to Christine's assertion that failure to seek editorial endorsement of a publication is similar to ducking public debate. This community suffers from power being too closely held by manifestly unserious people. This was vividly on display last summer, when an unconsciously humorous sense of entitlement was expressed by one of our local Press Lords. City publisher Towler attempted to smear Lovely Warren as implying she had this newspaper's endorsement when she did not. I am not a supporter of Warren, but Warren did no such thing. Warren accurately quoted flattering things City newspaper, which endorsed Mayor Richards, had said about her. Towler's response was to grumpily suggest she would never say anything favorable again about a candidate she didn't endorse. This is a very revealing insight into Towler's thinking, and ought to establish her as exactly the sort of Rochester "opinion leader" we all should pay less attention to.
To go hat in hand to Ms. Towler, Mr. Lawrence, or any other self serving and self selected arbiter of the "public interest," to privately plead for their support, is NOT the same thing as a lengthy and uncensored public debate between candidates.
These "endorsement processes" are particularly demeaning to candidates, and their supporters, who observe a lack of open mindedness, or even simple honesty, by the stewards of such media outlets. It is lunacy to expect such candidates to legitimize such media outlets, or the temporary stewards of such outlets, particularly in this era of more partisan media, and declining standards of media conduct. A journalistic institution that conducts itself ethically will usually command the trust, respect, and cooperation extended a mediating institution in a community. Institutions that do not conduct themselves reasonably -- and City and the D&C certainly do not -- will find candidates, community leaders, and the public in general stepping around them, and it is long overdue here.
Must be why they call this the silly season! Lovely Warren didn't start campaigning last month, she started campaigning last SPRING. And I know she has already debated Alex White in a public place before now because I was there. Anyone who doesn't know anything about her or her plans by this time, has either been living under a rock or not paying attention. Don't blame her, blame yourself.
Looks to me like she has learned how to play the game effectively. Many in this community walk away from, refuse to or blatantly ignore the rules of the game. They make their own as they go along. I've witnessed it numerous times. Personally, I think she should debate.
Lovely overcame one major hurdle which was to defeat Richards, whom should have never ran for re-election.
This is where the rubber meets the road.....Two's company and three's a crowd.
I am appalled! What kind of mayor is she going to be??? It appears she already thinks herself ABOVE the political process. JUST what Rochester needs in it's next Mayor. DISLIKE.
What in the heck would "Warren's policies" have to do with "failing schools?"
You got the wrong candidate. The three (3) candidates who have a combined incumbency-record of nearly twenty (20) years; are up for reelection on November 5th, and are responsible for developing, and overseeing "policies" to address "failing schools" are:
- Mr. Jose Cruz
- Mr. Van White
- Ms. Cynthia Elliott
Prior to the September 10th Democratic Party Primary Election, community members sponsored at least six (6) school board candidates forums. Mr. Jose Cruz did NOT participate in a single forum. A City Newspaper reporter covered at least three of the above referenced forums, and did NOT write a single word about Mr. Cruz's conspicuous absence.
So, apparently, only CERTAIN "people seeking public office have a responsibility to subject themselves to a thorough vetting by the public.
STOP BEING POLITICAL HYPOCRITES!
You should never gamble with the certain and steadfast equality of a pension for a dialuted form of reason of prosperity .You all should strike not just for yourselves but for also the uncertain future of every working man in america being shredded little by little everything that is good
As a working man are virtue and values are giving to assure the product of are ideas grow and prosper so shall the princple and value of our lives should be after our service to continue the virtue.
Good for the workers for standing firm against an inferior offer being made by Wegmans. The truck drivers, warehouse employees, and bakery workers who have unionized with the Teamsters are right not to take a payout and a shadowy retirement plan in lieu of a guaranteed pension that ensures a lifetime of financial security. And shame on Wegmans for attempting to use their vaunted local brand to try to pull this chicanery on their own workforce.
Imagine if current mayor Tom Richards had refused to debate Warren during the Dem primary? After all, her campaign seemed hopeless. Or imagine if he'd continued campaigning on a minor party label (as he might've done after losing the primary). What would Warren have done then? I tend to think that we ought to be as expansive as possible. And so I agree with the City Newspaper on this. Lovely Warren should debate Alex White. Warren claims to be vaguely progressive ... if that is vaguely accurate, she ought to be embracing public discussion of the many matters confronting the city.
While it is true that students at the age that most of the City School district students are who wait for the buses now relocated on Main St. near Clint can be very active, vocal and excited that should not cover up the role the Transit Authority has played in decision=making with little thought to the City at large or to its realities. Perhaps this is because the Commissioners who represent the Authority largely come from suburban and outlying areas. The current decision to move the bus stop from the shelter at the Liberty Pole area to Main and Clinton raises serious questions of judgement. The area near the liberty pole is a bigger space than the one on Main which of course means that the large number of students who wait for buses at the previous site would cause more crowding when moved to the sidewalks on Main. It;s a mere visual check. Both the Transit Authority , the City and the School Superintendent claim the other made the decision to move the stop. Of course this points to another problem that of the lack of real communication among the players. This type of distant involvement by the RGRTA is common but not excusable. The Authority rarely asks adult bus riders who depend on the bus for real feedback and solutions to some of the related problems. The so called town hall meetings the Authority holds do not provide an organized way for the collective action that would be needed by those relying on the bus to have. Instead, the town hall meetings are there to be used to satisfy speech but not to organize for needed changes. Perhaps one of the most frustrating aspects related to the change in bus stops is the images of primarily black students being contained by police on horses who from my observation were noisy yes excited and lively yes but not violent. Those that set this change in motion have not been the focus as they should be. I contacted WXXI when the earlier reporting was done and presented the view that I am now writing about but the reports that followed by the media continued to omit any further evaluation or accountability. Bonnie Cannan
" it makes sense that she’d want to keep grinding her way to the November 5 goal line.
"Grinding away"? Excuse me? What's left to grind? The November election is over. Finished. A done deal. A fait accompli. Trato hecho. Alles fertig. The public knows it. Warren knows it. Richards knows it. And White knows it. Apparently City is one of the few who missed that fact.
If Warren truly wants to get her message about her plans for the city out to ALL the people of Rochester and not just to those living in her political comfort zone, then a broadcast debate or discussion of issues with White is the way to do it. By refusing to do so and handing out flimsy and laughable excuses she merely makes many conclude that she can’t stand the heat, no matter how tepid that heat may be.
What is Lovely Warren hiding? Maybe her ideas won't hold up against Alex White's ideas?
Lovely Warren quickly went from being the Democratic outsider to the Democratic candidate acting like she is heir apparent and cannot be bothered with debating another candidate.
Why is Lovely Warren afraid to debate? Rochester needs a fearless Mayor to do what is necessary, not a candidate who is afraid of speaking opening and honestly with another candidate about the future of Rochester.
The so-called jobs will be filled by out of state oil workers from Montana, Louisiana and other states where they already have fracking established. My hometown of Wheeling, WV has been overrun by the fracking industry and it is horrible. You will not benefit from fracking. the roads will be cluttered with trucks day and night and these out of state migrant workers will establish temporary housing with no regard or care for their temporary communities.
I would rather see what other organizations that are concerned with poverty and progressive solutions rather than depending on these guys who have for years supported privatization of services and avoid fair tax rates for the most wealthy. Contact other groups for their plans including Howie Hawkins for the New Green Deal and Fiscal Policy Institute. We do not need anymore shortsided let the rich get richer schemes.
You can sign my petition to get the media to run debates with or without all candidates here: http://tinyurl.com/pwrmmf9 If you support the cause consider resharing on social media.
If City Newspaper and the D&C would stop blindly endorsing Democrats every year for City Specific races candidates might actually be forced to debate and lay their cards on the table.
I just figured Warren's policies would be "more of the same." So if you like more crime, more police brutality, failing schools, a huge chunk of the city below the poverty line, lousy public transportation, and tax breaks for out-of-town corporations, well, by all means, vote for her. I'd say correct me if I'm wrong, but she won't come out and answer questions about what she stands for, so I can only assume ...
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