Petitions against this project with over 2,000 signatures have been given to the mayor and city council. The amount of signatures speaks volumes, but unfortunately the concerns fall on deaf ears. A 8-10 story building will not fit with the current landscape in the area. Please go back to the drawing board Mayor Lovely like you said you would do!
Yes. Let's move forward with this proposal. It's NOT being built on parkland. It's being built on an unused parking lot, leaving almost 1000 spaces that will still be vacant most of the year. It won't block any views, but will create new viewing areas. It will be great to have more dining options in Charlotte. Mr Dominics has gone downhill since opening a second location in Fairport and Windjammers is closed every holiday , just when people come to the beach for a great experience. It's embarrassing for a metro of 1.1 million people not having a thriving waterfront. I can't wait!!!
I would like to respond to Jason regarding Charlotte Strong. I am not ashamed to be a part of a group who has questions. Do you live here? I do and have for 40 years. This affects me and mine. We are not crazies. We are homeowners who have been burned before by the City of Rochester. you can see who I am. How about you?
Truilla (real estate) Charlotte neighborhood in Rochester, NY. The average list price for Charlotte is $77,377. for a 2 bdrm, 1 bath. Yeah, that's right in line with these million $$ condos!
$200,000 for a one-bedroom condo seems excessive. Additionally, residents would have to pay for property taxes and fees. Only a handful of people would seriously consider the condos. So, 12 to 24 condos makes sense.
I'm guessing that the hotel, restaurant, and coffeehouse would be equally overpriced.
Wouldn't this repel the vast majority of the population? Isn't this the opposite of what we want?
"strife with problems"
probably inadvertent, but nice...
I don't care what's happening in Miami afa questionable EB-5 funding. I don't live in Miami.
Why would Edgewater even display the 2nd drawing when it's not even going to be a part of phase 1? Isn't that leading people to believe it will be part of phase 1?
I believe the mayor and city have good intentions as far as the future of Charlotte. I just don't believe this particular project will work. Selling public waterfront property to private developers never ends up well for the citizens.
The marina was a good start for revitalization. Because it's PUBLIC. Everyone will (should) has access and the opportunity to enjoy it and the waterfront. Private waterfront housing will not. If the units do sell at the proposed prices (which I doubt) the residents who pay all that money are going to expect certain amenities.
I would imagine one expectation will be a level of privacy and quiet. Charlotte in the summer is anything but quiet. What happens then? Reduced public activities, more restrictions as to where the public can go, who knows what residents will demand and receive?
Keeping that area public will keep those issues from ever happening.
If you expect this to benefit the Rochester and surrounding area your are mistaken. This project consists of a hotel that will not be utilized by local residents and one coffee shop and one restaurant. How much revenue will that bring in to the City tax base. This hotel is supposed to be unique because it will have spa amenities. Many hotels in this area offer this same thing closer to beautiful shopping (Eastview Mall, etc.). This hotel will be empty in the long winter months and eventually will be a large empty building similar to the Port building now that is mostly empty and a sad reminder of past "Grand Mistakes" made by the city.
Lies and propaganda? I don't think so. Selling public park land to a private developer for an ill fated luxury hotel and condo development is just not smart.
Rochester is the 8th largest and 3rd poorest city in the country. I'm not sure where you found stats stating we are growing in population. Seniors especially are leaving in droves for better weather and lower taxes. http://www.actrochester.org/Monroe
Instead of building new on a postage stamp parcel of land on the waterfront, how about rehabbing what is already there and in decline?! Photos do not lie. Some of these homes are in Charlotte. http://www.pbase.com/joldfield/rochester_in_decline
As far as EB-5, anyone can google and find out why it's not the best choice for funding. http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2012-03-23/coming-to-america-costs-500-000-with-job-plan-prone-to-failures.html http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2014/feb/18/issues-of-corruption-fraud-in-investor-visa-progra/?page=all
As far as 400 jobs- I'd like an exact break down (besides the 100 construction jobs. I believe that number, but they are temporary) 300 jobs for a 60 room hotel? Really? Maybe 100, tops, but certainly not 300. And the majority of those 100 jobs will be minimum wage- servers, bussers, bartenders, housekeeping, front desk. Is adding 100 minimum wage jobs really a great financial boon for our city?
They are talking about 30 million dollars for phase 1 . Some of that will come from taxes. This came right from Edgewater's proposal------
" Additional funding sources may include LIHTC Equity, NYS Tax Exempt
Bonds, and possible consideration of City Home Funds for a small portion
of the affordable housing components if appropriate."
Where do you think that money comes from? TAXES.
These are not lies, nor propaganda. There is no reason to lie. I love this city. I love Charlotte. It NEEDS development. It just needs the RIGHT development.
I think that this project has great merit and we should all give it serious consideration. It does not seem obtrusive or terribly out of scale to the rest of Charlotte and in the end may be a very good development for the neighborhood and city. After all, cities across the Northeast (and North America) are reinvesting in their waterfronts with great success. We can not move forward, if we are continually stuck in the past. However, this controversy does still point out that the current city administration is indeed having significant problems developing positive relationships with some city neighborhoods. Although the administration is frustrated by opposition to the plan, the city's web site FAQ blasting the neighborhood group is a poor strategy for working with neighbors. Such negativity only engenders greater resentment and volatility. I hope this great project moves forward, but I also I hope the administration retools its approach in order to rebuild trust.
This is Rochester, NY not Portland, ME we are the 8th largest city in the Northeastern, United States, and our metropolitan region has added over 100,000 residents.
Since the decline of Kodak, Xerox and Bausch and Lomb. Kodak has split into many smaller and more focused companies many of which are now hiring and growing. Paychex has surpassed B&L in size. And Constellation brands has emerged as the largest producer of wine in the world.
A 8 story building in Miami would be laughable, if you look at the list of the typical high rise in Miami they are all 50 stories or higher...
Now Miamis metro population is about 5 million Rochester is about 1 million. If anything an 8 story building is less 1/5th the size of the typical 50 story waterfront high rise in Miami... I think it's sized appropriately for this city.
EB-5 Investment is used everywhere across the united states especially down south in miami. If your that upset about EB-5 funding why don't you focus your protesting effort down south where the majority of the EB-5 funding for projects like this is going? Did you know the federal government recently designated Miami as a "EB-5 Regional Center for Foreign Investment"?
Finally building this project in phases actually reduces the risk of this being a failure to the taxpayer, the next phase can be adjusted based upon the success of phase one.
Lessons clearly have been learned, the fast ferry was an example of going all out instead of starting with a small boat and eventually phasing in a large boat based upon market demand. I think it will be successful.
To those who may see this Charlotte Strong group spreading fud, please look past the outrageous claims, lies and myths being propagated by this group. It's a small minority who are screaming the loudest and making absurd accusations that are blatantly false.
The truth is here:
300 jobs, 100 being construction?! PLEASE! He is planning on bringing in the same people he worked with on Harbor Shores in Michigan. He as much said so himself. There will be little to no local construction used.
His math is really fuzzy if he believes a 60 room hotel and restaurant will support 200 employees. If you're going to embellish, (lie) at least make it SEMI plausible Mr. Weycamp!
The truth is, this project is chock FULL of red flags. #1- 20 million dollars in taxpayer money being used #2-EB-5 funding- google it-it's strife with problems. #3- THERE IS NO NEED for a luxury resort hotel in an area only utilized about 2.5 months a year. This is upstate NY, NOT MIAMI. #4- the height of the building blocks river and lake views for all except those living on the top floors of the high rise. #5.Selling public land to private investors is not the way to develop a waterfront where you want and expect the general public to use.
Phase one may happen and certain people will benefit financially from this phase. But it will NOT be viable and phase 3 and 4 will never happen. This will leave an empty ten story eyesore.
The developer DID NOT LISTEN TO CONCERNS Mayor Warren! Sakaski pulled out for very good reasons. Its really too bad Rochester never learns from their past mistakes.
Looks great! Can't wait for it to be built!
This should be our first step in the Climate March!
"As environmental science has advanced, it has become apparent that the human appetite for animal flesh is a driving force behind virtually every major category of environmental damage now threatening the human future: deforestation, erosion, fresh water scarcity, air and water pollution, climate change, biodiversity loss, social injustice, the destabilization of communities, and the spread of disease." Worldwatch Institute, "Is Meat Sustainable?"
“If every American skipped one meal of chicken per week and substituted vegetables and grains... the carbon dioxide savings would be the same as taking more than half a million cars off of U.S. roads.” Environmental Defense Fund
"A 1% reduction in world-wide meat intake has the same benefit as a three trillion-dollar investment in solar energy." ~ Chris Mentzel, CEO of Clean Energy
If Al Gore can do it, you can too! I did it 26 years ago and consider it one of the best decisions of my life.
Step by Step Guide: How to Transition to a Vegan Diet http://www.onegreenplanet.org/vegan-food/s…
Is this going to actually accomplish anything? Does ANYTHING the Leg Dems do accomplish anything? They are semi-professional political whiners, not legislators. There are 10 of them. It takes 15 to make a majority. The Party can't even keep their own endorsed candidates in office, as Leslie Rivera and Saul Maniero before her have found out too late (and both from the same district, the 29th). If O'Brien get defeated by a former news anchor with a bad toupee in November (Rich Funke), I would suggest the Party consider disbanding. Does anyone even care about the Leg Dems? Are they capable of actually DOING anything?
Thanks John. I should have known that since a friend of mine played it constantly, and I do mean CONSTANTLY. I liked "Judith" and one particular recording, "The Moon's a Harsh Mistress." And yes, it is nice that she's still around.
so if the minimum wage goes up, requiring not only soulless corporations but struggling mom-and-pop businesses to pony up, then skilled worker wages rise commensurately, then retail prices skyrocket so businesses can afford to pay their employees, aren't we right back where we started? what am i missing here?
I'm gonna copy-paste me facebook status from yesterday into this comments thread, because there are apparently still a bunch of fools out there: Ok, kids, let me explain a little something you should have figured out on your own. NOBODY IS SAYING FAST FOOD WORKERS SHOULD MAKE MORE MONEY THAN YOU. Fifteen dollars an hour is meant to represent a living wage. The point of Fight for Fifteen is not that frycooks deserve a higher wage than paramedics or whatever other underpaid profession you care to name. The point is that everyone who works for a living should make enough to live on. And giant, tax-dodging, multinational corporations should not be paying the WORKERS (that's all of us) poverty level wages. If you work for a living and you're against workers making a living wage, then you're just against yourself.
People who are complaining about a higher wage for fast food employees being too much would do well to remember that these jobs are no longer held primarily by high school kids earning spending money, but increasingly by people trying to survive, pay bills, and raise children. Thats the reality of the economy we live in right now, and one can't always just run out, try harder, and get another job. On top of that, all you taxpayers are subsidizing the fast food industry to pay their workers low wages in the form of food stamps, medical insurance, and other benefits. You pay for McDonalds greed. It's really that simple. So, instead of sitting on the comments section of City Newspaper telling fast food workers to work harder at life, or defending wealthy franchisees who need no defense...perhaps you should join these brave workers on the picket line next time. And there will be a next time.
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