BOB VOLPE – I agree wholeheartedly. Except that calling City Newspaper, or even the D&C an "important public opinion leader" is laying it on a bit thick.
So ignoring the fact that someone has to be pretty simple-minded to care who a given newspaper endorses, I’ve always wondered why the media fails to avail themselves of a right given to them which is denied to we voters, namely the ability to designate “None of the Above” as their selection.
"Bart - There are a lot of things you don’t see. "
Huh? Do you honestly think the business climate in New York is wonderful? Do you believe Cuomo's ad campaign that New York is "Open for Business"? Yikes. Step away from that Kool-Aid.
Bart - There are a lot of things you don’t see. My deepest sympathies.
I did not see where Mr. Palermo presented any "facts" that businesses in New York always fail because of regulations and taxes. Maybe you have "facts" to back up your assertion. It's generally accepted, however, that New York State is extremely business-unfriendly and is described as a "tax hell". This certainly doesn't help those trying to create jobs here. The cable business channel CNBC ranked New York 50th out of the 50 states for business friendliness. The state rated 34th in having an overall hospitable climate toward business.
In July of last year Cuomo said that the state was running ads to address the perception that New York is unfriendly to business. “We’re not hiding that New York has had a reputation for being anti- business or problematic for businesses,” said Cuomo
Good luck with that.
Sam Palermo – I’m always amazed by the fact that businesses in New York always fail because of “stifling regulations and high taxes”, and never because of poor business skills, incompetent CEOs, or just plain bad management.
I still have no idea what you're talking about. That link was a search that showed people who were posting about the murals. (Again, here it is: https://twitter.com/search?q=%23walltherap…) I was not arguing about any link between anything. The vast majority of the comments were in support of the Wall Therapy program.
Your reading comprehension and leaps of logic are pretty funny.
Zack - So let's see. Your response to another poster ...
"Either way, a quick twitter search suggests that your opinion regarding these murals is not the majority. I'm guessing you don't use twitter."
....was a clear statement that you believe that there's a connection between not appreciating the murals and not using Twitter. I set out what I see as the connection and you disagreed. So pray tell, what IS the connection that you claim exists?
MJN-You're putting words in my mouth. You've made your point that you don't like the murals. I get it, just like Paul Goldberg doesn't like them. My point is that the way you both express your opinions is self-serving and unproductive.
Odds are, the majority of people don't care about the murals. They don't upset them and they don't make them feel inspired.
I'm not gonna engage your snark, but I will say there are places that require neighbors to approve what goes on on your own property. Most suburbs have some sort of regulations like that. Not saying you should leave Rochester--you both may actually be productive for the city in some ways--just trying to point out another option for something you actually have control over.
"Either way, a quick twitter search suggests that your opinion regarding these murals is not the majority. I'm guessing you don't use twitter"
Zack - Not clear which point you’re trying to make. Is it the fact that some people are gullible enough to believe that the opinions expressed by the twits using Twitter are somehow representative of the opinions of society as a whole (or should that be “hole”?)...
...or is it that the same mentality that that considers Twitter to be an effective means of communication also can easily be conned into believing that crappy wall murals are “art”?
I'm kinda shocked people think they are bears...if you look at the artist other pieces of work they look exactly like his rats..... but without a tail.
Paul Goldberg, this is the second time you've expressed your dislike for the Wall Therapy program. (http://roccitynews.wordpress.com/2012/08/0…) Instead of belaboring your complaints you could find the good in the Wall Therapy program. Art is often meant to challenge preconceived notions. Perhaps take this opportunity to try to understand what the artist was going for in their murals?
Maybe take the "rat" mural as an opportunity to meet the building owner and ask why he chose to use that wall for painting?
Maybe use the art as a generational bridge to speak with your grandchildren? (I bet they might like it.)
...or you could continue to complain to a newspaper and feel better for venting frustrations on the public.
Either way, a quick twitter search suggests that your opinion regarding these murals is not the majority. I'm guessing you don't use twitter, so here's the link: https://twitter.com/search?q=%23walltherap…
Bravo to Paul Goldberg for standing up and speaking his truth about this Wall Art phenomenon, which immediately struck me and my wife - both of us cultural workers and art enthusiasts - as a highly questionable enterprise.
My wife said, " Why are outsiders coming in and saying what people need to see on their walls? Who are these people, and did they ask anyone living there if they wanted it?" She pointed out that the photos suggested it was mostly white guys painting black women, which she characterized as bullshit, although that was clearly just a hunch.
I thought much of the art was too frenetic or self indulgent or just plain bad for anyone to live with on a regular and long-term basis. If I wanted to sound less judgmental, I'd just point out that even the best ones represent a very particular aesthetic that may appeal to a narrow contingent of self-appointed art champions but don't seem likely to enhance life for a general public. They represent a private art aesthetic, something a few people might choose to look at but no one should be forced to see -- public art needs to take public interest into consideration.
I can't imagine many residents of nearby neighborhoods see them as an enhancement. I would hate to be accosted by them on a regular basis. Plain walls have so much more to offer. I say that as an artist who knows how much we ned public support for art, but we also need artistic respect for the public.
What arrogance to inflict this on an area and then insult the unfortunate residents when they object. What utter, self-congratualtory arrogance masquerading as public interest. And how very like, for example, the intusive and domineering US foreign policy that these same well-intentioned art pushers probably abhor.
PAUL GOLDBERG - I certainly understand how you feel. Several times a week I have to drive by one or more of Alex Paley's piles of rusting scrap metal which litter our landscape and which our city father’s were conned by self-appointed cultural mavens into accepting as “art”.
Then of course we have Tom “The Dog Killer” Otterness’ sculptures at the MAG which apparently are designed to teach children that no matter how socially deviant they become they can still find some museum director and board willing to pay big bucks for their creations.
It must have been a slow week for Bill McCoy's remarks to be deemed interesting enough to print, but far be it from me to criticize one who appears so cultured.
In the spirit of being a good sport, the answer to his questions are as follows:
1. Such a term depends on the particular franchise; infected, turned, and countless others have been used over the years. Since WWZ comes from Max Brooks, meaning that the condition is a result of the Solanum virus, "infected" would probably be the be one to use here (though the military refers to them as "Zac" in the novel, similar their use of "Tango"). There's this great little thing called "Google" that would have answered this for him.
2/3. No more than the same amount of brain matter lost while watching television. If we grant that watching "Two and a Half Men" leads to a loss of the sense of humor (or at least lowers it to the most basic level) and watching "CSI" leads to the loss of imagination in general, then I suppose an argument can be made for this. However, I can't imagine Mr. McCoy will want to walk this path since he appears to watch television a great deal. How else could he have seen the advertisement enough times to warrant this level of disdain toward something he's never seen (or read if you include the book. Reading, what a novel thought!).
I understand that fostering discussion is the goal here, but comments like this don't actually help do so. There are better things to talk about than listen to a grown man complain about a subjective entertainment outlet that has no bearing on reality.
Fracking and energy independence are an interesting pair....until you realize the gas industry is preparing to sell fracked gas to foreign countries.
THE POUR HOUSE
You recently conducted a review on the tavern, THE POUR HOUSE in Penfield, but you forgot to include a pertinent detail. While I enjoyed my visit and the atmosphere during a recent get-together with a friend to watch a ball game, I was shocked to see Labatt's beer being sold by the pitcher for 12 dollars! Other bars practically give the stuff away for half the price, I've seen. Get with it, Pour House owner!
Dr William Carla, "on children and protest" suggested that the business community is behind the core curriculum drive in this nation. Now, yes Bill Gates, who once was a major business player, is involved with the core curriculum program, At the same time, few in the business community who understand the major goals of Core Curriculum would support such a program . This is all part of "the fundamental change" of President Obama. The Federal Education Department has its fingerprints all over this poorly designed program to create a national indoctrination and data gathering program. It is all about increasing federal government control of our lives and Dr. Carla either knows the true sources of this diabolical scheme or has not done his homework. The most important part of any protest is knowing who and what you are demonstrating against.......
BEE'S DEMISE: It seems there is another possible cause of colony collapse disorder. It is the substitute provided by the commercial bee keepers to feed the bees. They use high fructose corn syrup to feed the bees and although the other possible causes have not been ruled out, the substitute food may not be activating the detox/immune system of the bees. Here is a link to a good article on the subject: http://arstechnica.com/science/2013/05/fee…
“Unjust laws exist; shall we be content to obey them, or shall we endeavor to amend them, and obey them until we have succeeded, or shall we transgress them at once? Men generally, under such a government as this, think that they ought to wait until they have persuaded the majority to alter them. They think that, if they should resist, the remedy would be worse than the evil. But it is the fault of the government itself that the remedy is worse than the evil. It makes it worse. Why is it not more apt to anticipate and provide for reform? Why does it not cherish its wise minority? Why does it cry and resist before it is hurt? Why does it not encourage its citizens to be on the alert to point out its faults, and do better than it would have them?”
― Henry David Thoreau, Civil Disobedience and Other Essays
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