Kathryn Quinn Thomas - That the voters selected Warren over Richards in last month's Democratic primary in no way, shape, or form precluded City from again endorsing Richards IF he had chosen to continue his campaign as a third party candidate as he had every right to do.
But the point that City, Richards’ cronies and hangers-ons, and now, possibly even Richards himself, are ignoring is that Richards WITHDREW from the campaign and threw his support to Warren
"I am announcing today that I am ending my campaign for reelection. ..."I believe that my announcement today will, and should mean that Lovely Warren will be elected our next Mayor. I intend to work to make that occur successfully and I urge everyone to do so as well.”
There are no second thoughts or do-overs after this kind of announcement..
An honorable man would keep his word and stay out of the race. An honorable newspaper would demand that he do so and would castigate and not endorse any back sliding.
We’ll have to wait and see where honor lies in Rochester politics.
Hey City--Your censorship of this conversation is pretty agregious, especially for an "alternative" paper. Let the people have their dialogue without your petty interference.
ROCstar--your comments sound a lot like what Molly said to Jim Lawrence, detailed in his editorial, "Molly Takes Exception". http://blogs.democratandchronicle.com/edit…
Glad all you City Hall "turnoutforTom" operatives are using the same talking points. Message discipline is key for these astroturf efforts. ROCStar, everyone knows you are the man behind the curtain.
When a non partisan newspaper endorses a political canidate it should be viewed as journalistic suicide.
Nice to know that there's a lot if sheep in Rochester
You asked a specific question of me, allow me to give a specific answer. You asked whether I thought Lovely Warren was ready to be Mayor. The answer is an absolute yes! In fact, more qualified than Bill Johnson was after running the Urban League...more qualified than Bob Duffy, who ran a paramilitary organization as a police chief. More qualified than Maggie Brooks who was a county clerk, and, more qualified by her 6 years on council, and 4 as council president than Tom Richards, who ran a utility was when he took office.
The reason is that she has woked in the legislative branch of city government and knows that side well. She now, in a strong mayor city, can work between the legislative and executive departments to create a better Rochester.
I believe that whe will be a collaborative and outreaching Mayor. I believe that she will have challenges, but, she is an agent of change when we need one. Someone said..."this is the end of the "smugtown" era of Rochester...the era when white business people told the city what to do and how"...I agree with that assessment!
The Democrat and Chronicle got it right with their endorsement editorial today. Now, we should all rally around Lovely and work together to make a better Rochester. I fear that the current attempt to derail her election will damage the Democratic party for years to come.
His proposal of giving jobs to students in the summer and paying them for going to school is intriguing and leads to the questions: Who's going to pay for it all? The city that can barely keep itself afloat? The school district that wastes money like it's water? His heart is in the right place but you need to use your head to run a city.
We may never agree on this but lets take a look at just what you say. The small investment you refer to is Midtown town and it comes with $8.7 million of city money and $6 million of state money. There is the Sibley building which we have already give $1 million to build a police station, and a $3.1 million loan. They are also seeking long term tax breaks and millions more in loans/ grants to rehab this building. No study shows the need for a new downtown hotel and presently we have a surplus of rooms so the Hilton does not make economic sense and the Inner loop fill is is $7 million more of our money with $17.7 million from the federal government. When this is completed what will we have 300 or so more apartments downtown, 14 acres of shovel ready space no one is wants, 2.5 million square feet of vacant commercial space and we will be more than $41 million poorer. Will poverty be decreased? Will the many underemployed have better careers? Will crime be lower? Downtown will look nicer but will it be better? If you think there will be taxes out of this I ask you to look at 454 Westfall Rd an apartment complex which is worth $4.1 million and yet pays $1268 in taxes even though this building was built in 1972. It seems these tax breaks never expire as in 20 years these projects will need something done which will justify extending the tax breaks. My problem is I look at this as an investment and I see neither a monetary return nor a public benefit return so I see no reason to spend this money trying to recreate a downtown which is gone.
ROCStar, you are asking me how do I know, who is part of their campaign?
This is the answer below:
1. I am a concerned citizen of this city
2. I am curious about anything political around this environment
3. It became an open secret, about who is who in this campaign due to the different mistakes Richards’ supporters made.
Thank you for asking.
Sorry, City, but this endorsement is a smack in the face to all the voters who chose Lovely Warren. Liberals (and I am one) are often considered intellectual elitists--this is elitism at its finest. Who are you to decide that their votes don't count?
Ben Lewis....Your comments about White and city council mean you are forever resigned to the staus quo and that is sad. I always believe something better than what we currently have is possible but only if we stop voting the way we always vote. I also believe that if elected officials have good ideas that the people like and support everyone else...city council...would need to follow the voice of the people.
What part of this statement did City Newspaper not understand...?
"I am announcing today that I am ending my campaign for reelection. This is exclusively a personal decision driven by personal circumstances. My family has been dealing for some time with a difficult health challenge for one of our members that has recently evolved to the point where continuing my campaign is no longer appropriate.
. I am not sure that I have always made the correct decision, but I believe that I am doing so this time.
"I believe that my announcement today will, and should mean that Lovely Warren will be elected our next Mayor. I intend to work to make that occur successfully and I urge everyone to do so as well. After the election, my administration will work to assist in the transition. I believe that this is in the best interest of our city.”
- Mayor Thomas Richards, Sept. 18, 2013
Not a big deal, Chris Fien?
-UNICON is a nonprofit, and as such, is barred from political activity...but I guess those pesky IRS rules are for the other guys.
-The Independence Party has not filed a single disclosure report since their Turn Out fundraising campaign. That's a criminal offense which you've neglected to report.
-Gary Walker wrote both the Corryn op-ed and the ambiguous Richards statements--a troubling conflict.
Tom Janowski - Experience and ideas (preferably good ideas) ARE important. But in Rochester city politcs so is a working relationship between the mayor and city council (even though in past years the council has done little except rubber stamp the hair-brained schemes of Johnson, Duffy and Richards).
If by divine intervention White were elected mayor he would still have no personal or political relationship with the council nor, as an outsider, would the council see any reason to cooperate with someone with no Democratic party power behind him. Oh yeah, there is that old line about working for the benefit of the people, but that clearly comes in a distant second to party loyalty in this town.
the city is doomed under these failed leaders.
There is an ad on TV that says if you do the same old, same old, you're going to get the same old, same old. We have been getting the same old, same old for too long. It is time for change, for new ideas. Overthrow the dominant Paradigm! We need change to improve our City! City Newspaper has failed in that they limit their openness to change. Choosing a person who has stated that has said they are not running for as the ideal candidate is absurd.
I'm not sure why anyone has a hard time figuring out what's going on with Tom Richards. He seems to be the man who said he'd be Mayor IF the local Dems did the work to get him elected. For the re-election, I get the sense that Monroe County Dems promised to reinstall him as Mayor...again with Richards doing next to nothing.
Two things come into question. Was Richards unable to participate in his own campaign because of serious family issues? And does an aversion to campaigning make a candidate less worthy of holding office? I don't k now the answers to either question but I will say candidates should at least exhibit some passion and excitement about what they are doing. Richards has always been too lifeless for my liking.
I believe the primary results tell the story. While Lovely was out engaging with the people, Richards was occupied with family matters. So, while Richards is vaguely toying with the voters, it should not be forgotten the Richards has already lost the primary. The voters just weren't that interested in Richards. Only the media and a few political insiders seem interested in attempting to perform CPR on the Richards campaign.
It is time the citizens of Rochester end the speculation and forget about Richards. It is time to deal with reality. It is time to look at the Lovely Warren vs. Alex White race for Mayor. Who has the best and freshest ideas for Rochester? Who has the courage to debate and who will not dignify voters with a debate?
It's time to shake up Rochester. Vote Alex White.
Experience is not a magical quality that makes one candidate great. Lack of experience does not mean a candidate is unworthy of a vote. Ideas and fresh thinking are important too.
Many thought Bill Johnson was an experinced leader but he is the one who brought the disasterous fast ferry to Rochester. Experience didn't seem to help in that situation.
Exactly what did Tom do. Duffy was still running Rochester through Tom. I heard one of his people that's trying to get re-elected say that he put together a great team in City Hall. All of those people are the people that Duffy put in place.
It's amazing that some people think race is never an issue. I worked for a guy that refused to promote blacks and promoted under qualified white employees. Did race have anything to do with it? After the company lost a few EEOC suits because of him, they fired him. So, race is sometimes a factor. It's not always the lowest form of discourse. I'm black and the last thing I look at is race being the reason for things. But sometimes it truthfully comes down to race whether you want to admit it or not. Isn't Molly a Democratic official in the 28th district? (I think it's 28th). If so, shouldn't she be supporting the candidate that the party is endorsing. Was Tom ready for prime time? I know he worked for RG&E. Didn't he let a foreign company take over that place? By the way I think Tom is a super nice guy. But his press conference didn't make him look good. He's an executive, right? You can't tell people to stop pushing for you to be mayor? You're going to tell me that everybody knew that they we campaigning for you, but you didn't know. Either he is totally out of the political loop or he's not telling the truth. Not a good look for Tom. Why can't he answer the question as to whether or not he would serve if elected? That was the main reason for the press conference. Like I said, not a good look for Tom. The people have spoken. Everybody should live with it.
To say the least, I was disappointed in your newspaper endorsement of a man who says he is not running for mayor. You insistence on this "endorsement" smacks of the old guard believing the sky is falling when ever there is a probable transfer of power. It also is highly insensitive to a person you claim to support in that you insist on separating his desire to care for his family from a dubious public duty to which he owes no one. I am also tired of your misstatement of Council President Lovely Warrens support of public schools. She does support them. She simply believes as I do that education hungry city parents and children should not be held hostage to the city school district's failures. She correctly says, "parents need options". In additions she says in response to questions about city take over of schools, the superintendent needs to be given the opportunity to work out the solutions. Furthermore, you assume that Lovely's not spelling out all of her strategies is a weakness. Rather it is an important show of good leadership. She believes in including the constituents in crafting solutions. In addition she will as all good leaders do surround herself with competent staff and advisers. The current mayor stated when asked if he wanted to be mayor,"I want to be a grandfather more." Give the man and his family due respect. Also, elect an effective leader Lovely Warren who has the vision, compassion , competence and passion to be the mayor. She after all, represents the future of Rochester. Dr.Ruth H. Scott, former President of the Rochester City Council
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