Sandy Hook was committed with a legally purchased gun left lying around by the mother of a mentally ill child.
Paralyzed for fear of the NRA is not a good reason to do nothing.
Law abiding citizens have been known to leave their guns out where children have access to them.
Safe Act has been around long enough for the haters to have developed their own better plan....but where is it?
Tom, why do you think doing something, even if it doesn't make sense, is better than doing nothing?
As far as children killed by gun violence, I am sick of I and other legal gun owners being blamed for the negligent or criminal use of firearms by others. I have three kids. I care about children as much as you do.
I live in a suburb bordering a poor high crime city with almost daily shootings. All of those shootings are committed by young black males. When I moved here 23 years ago there were 5 murders in the city neighborhood I moved to in 18 months, again committed by young black males. In the suburb I live in and every other suburb in the county and beyond there have been no shootings, none. In 23 years there hasn't been a criminal shooting committed by a white person anywhere near here.
Before you call me racist know that FBI statistics confirm that what is happening here is happening across the country. Blacks make up about 12% of the U.S. population yet commit over half the murders. Not all blacks commit those murders. Most are committed by young black males who make up about a quarter of the black population and about 3% of the U.S. population. 3% of the population commits over 50% of the murders. That's fact. If it isn't, show me statistics that refute the FBI.
None of those murders are committed with legal guns. None of the shooters could ever legally buy a gun because they have criminal records before they turn 18, the minimum age to legally buy a gun. They are already criminals when they commit murder with criminally purchased or stolen illegal guns.
I and my gun and the guns of other legal gun owners have nothing to do with that. If you want to "do something" about gun violence try to convince young black males that this is the 21st Century when civilized people don't settle grievances and real or perceived insults with violence. Young urban black males have a perverted sense of what they call honor that to them must be defended with violence. That's crazy and a horrible tragedy for young black males and their families.
You want to "do something". Do what you can to change that mindset. Failing that, lock up every murderer for life. I'm against the death penalty but strongly believe that murderers should die in prison. Other capital punishment opponents should accept that as the minimum justice survivors of murder victims will accept.
The vast majority of gun violence is not committed by legal gun owners. It is committed by criminals with illegal guns. Federal Bureau of Alcohol Tobacco and Firearms agents are on record in interviews as saying they are not concerned about legal gun owners but catching illegal ones. Criminals are on record in interviews saying they don't care about gun control. It's not a concern to them because they are criminals and don't follow the law.
Yet you and other gun control advocates keep focusing on legal gun owners. The only way it makes sense is that you hate guns and gun ownership and want to see them limited as much as possible to everyone. If you injected most gun control advocates with truth serum they would admit what Bill Maher is honest enough to say without it, that the Second Amendment is the problem that stands in the way of their goals, that the Second Amendment is, in their minds, b.s., an anachronism left over from the 1700s that should be gotten rid of.
To which I say, go for it. If you don't like average law-abiding Americans owning and carrying guns try to repeal the Second Amendment. The Constitution spells out how.
Until then, leave legal gun owners alone. We're not the problem.
As far as school shootings, fortunately they are rare. Without infringing on citizens' constitutional right there are probably steps that can be taken to keep guns out of the hands of the seriously mentally ill as long as it doesn't include every gun owner who is not dangerous seeking routine mental health treatment. The fact is that there is nothing that can be done to absolutely prevent all mass shootings other than to get rid of the Second Amendment and the constitutional right to own and carry firearms and collect and destroy most of them the way Australia did. Even then criminals would have guns but they generally only shoot at each other or individual robbery victims. If you want to "do what has worked in other countries" like Australia you need to get rid of the Second Amendment. Of course, I and every other gun owner will resist you every step of the way.
Is it too much to ask for you people to try something new? Like, say for example, giving an independent candidate a chance instead of someone who will quite obviously toe the party line? Neither party is what's best for our country. You MAY be able to argue that one is a lesser of two evils, but you would then be ignoring the third option: an independent that is actually GOOD rather than the lesser of two evils (democrat and republican are both evil, in different ways).
Slaughter is just another example of what is wrong with partisan politics (anyone who supported the ACA blindly, ignoring the wishes of the majority that never wanted the ACA to be forced upon us in the first place falls into this category) and should NOT be re-elected. Write in a candidate if you don't like the other guy, just stop with the lesser of two evils already!!!
The SAFE act is a bad law, passed in an unsavory fashion, and demonstrably unenforceable. A legislator who could vote for this act and show no remorse is unworthy of further public service. Best wishes in your next job, Ted. You're fired.
City endorsements are useful. They show who not to vote for.
Hawkins is such a cheapskate! Only a $15 minimum wage? Why not $40? After all, it's not his money or the taxpayers. He'll make those evil money-grubbing businesses pay a nice fat wage for their workers. The fiscally irresponsible state is in a better position to know what business can afford, right? But like they say about socialism; sooner or later you run out of other peoples' money!
I'll vote for anyone who will repeal the NY SAFE act. It does NOTHING to make NY safer and it rammed through for Cuomo's political aspirations. Liberals are afraid of open and honest discussion and debate to find common ground as the basis for common sense legislation (see also the way Obamacare was passed).
Jim, if Funke does not have a better plan than the Safe Act, then he has nothing at all. Heaven knows the Safe Act is far from good legislation, however I give credit to those who decided to do something instead of doing nothing at all.
Jim, everything you said was centered on what gun owners want. What about the future children yet to be killed by gun violence in the next school massacre. Do they matter less than gun owners?
Bart: Hawkins has always explained how he would found his plans for NY. It is the same this time around as it was the last time he ran for Gov.
Tom, Rich Funke has attended several gun owners' events. Gun owners are frustrated that he hasn't officially declared a position on what he would do on the SAFE Act but it makes no sense for a gun owner to vote for a candidate who attacked their constitutional Second Amendment right. Unfortunately Ted O'Brien, every other state Democrat and some downstate Republicans including Senate Majority Leader Dean Skelos did that. Because of that gun owners will vote against them regardless of the imperfections of their opponents. Perhaps Rich Funke's imprecise stance on the SAFE Act is a smart political move. Most residents of the rural southern half of the 55th District hate the SAFE Act. Most City of Rochester and some suburban residents support it. He won't get many city votes because it is so solidly Democratic but he needs Democratic and independent votes from the suburbs and it's probably a smart move not to make too much of the SAFE Act to avoid driving away those who support Cuomo's stupid law. Gun owners know that any candidate is better than one who voted for the SAFE Act or has an established anti-gun record or attitude. Rich Funke hasn't said or done anything to indicate he will attack our constitutional right and he is running against one who has so he will get the vote of every gun owner in the district.
Your article stresses the importance of being informed and having the option to view politics as more than voting for the lesser of two ev... The need for the Platform Hawkins supports seeks to change the direction of politics from control of the established powerful to the value of real people who face more and more struggles. Having a vision providing solutions can become reality if we work for it!! Bonnie Cannn
Such wonderful ideas from Hawkins: $15 minimum wage, publicly funded health care (don't we already have the wondrous Obamacare?), free tuition to SUNY and CUNY, 12 weeks of paid family leave, funding for abortions, more DEC funding, public campaign funding...what a fantastic wish list!
So in the HIGHEST TAXED and most BUSINESS UNFRIENDLY state in America, how does Mr. Hawkins intend to pay for all of this? I don't see a single word about how the taxpayers will be affected by this tax-and-spend agenda. He must be completely out of touch with reality. The exodus from NY by business and people who actually work for a living (already at alarming levels) will accelerate as a result of all this fiscal irresponsibility.
thanks for this well thought out piece - it is appreciatede
Louise Slaughter is the most qualified candidate, her vast experience is needed, her knowledge and Congressional experience are priceless. Let's see, Gates Town Supervisor for 4 years against Louise Slaughter's knowledge. No contest, Louise Slaughter wins! I am also tired of the Republican's many failed attempt to limit health care, deny voter's their rights, making up false claims against the president and their questionable ethics in accepting money from corporations and special interest groups who benefit from their connections with politicians to get what they want. Vote for Louise who truly works for the people.
If you have met both Cuomo and Hawkins, as I have, you would know immediately who to vote for. Hawkins can can about a wider range of ideas than Cuomo for the simple fact big donors prevent Cuomo from doing so.
For intelligence unencumbered by corporate constraints, vote for Hawkins.
Hawkins is also the anti- fracking candidate.
I posted two questions to Rich Funke's Facebook page. 1. Do you plan to repeal or replace the Safe Act. If you replace it, what is your better plan to curb senseless gun violence? 2. Are you for or against hydrofracking in NY? My post was deleted.
Do not vote for a COWARD!
Give me a break. Slaughter is a fossil and should tend to her great grand-children.
Its time for change. Louise needs to step aside, She and her liberal agenda is drilling this country into the ground, Bye Bye Louise
I have not been following media coverage of this, but it seems to me that a discussion of "hospital sprawl" is important; and a discussion of hospitals as money-makers is also important (that's better said "hospitals as businesses"). And, to be thorough, a discussion of healing (expectations, healing methods). I am happy to continue the discussion here, but I don't know if Comments is a good place to have a discussion. I welcome further articles from City or maybe even links to existing discussions.
It is no surprise that you endorsed O'Brien. After all, you only endorsed liberal candidates, and your only criticisms of ji were on issues where he was not lefty enough. Fortunately, endorsements have little to no impact on how people vote. I do wonder why you call it a competitive race however. There is a 25 point gap, which about the same as in the race for governor, and I do not think anyone thinks that race is competitive. It is important for people to come and vote O'Brien out of office though, because it is important to have the state Senate turn Republican. The Assembly has changed since 2010; they have moved to the left, reflecting the NYC vote. Cuomo showed that he could negotiate with theopposition party, but one party control would result in the DeBlasio agenda: hostility towRds charter schools, no teacher accountability, higher spending and taxes, and an anti business climate.
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