Ever have more questions than answers when you read/listen to the news? The Founding Fathers gave the free press the protection it must have to bare the secrets of government and inform the people.- Hugo Black
Comparing the Bush administration to the Obama administration is comparing apples to apples. Patriot Act, rendition, drones, indefinite detention, suspension of habeas corpus, far reaching executive orders...it grows and grows. Bush sat with the kids on 9/11 while we were under attack. Obama was on his 7th or so vacation golfing when being told about Bengazi numerous times...then top brass were replaced who disobeyed orders to help Americans in need. Look up free speech zones and the attempt to prevent protesting anyone under secret service protection (that can be anyone who the president decides). Don't forget Holder being in charge of Fast and Furious yet claiming executive privilege to deny an equal branch of gov't, Congress, to investigate the deaths of hundreds. What about saying we need more open gov't then making the penalties for whistle blowers even stricter? What about asking your generals if they would fire on their own citizens?
Funny what was considered conspiracy decades ago is now the norm. See the gradual loss of liberties? Have you followed up on NDAA? USS Liberty attack. US purposefully spreading STD's in Alabma and Guatemala and radiation in Kansas City? What about the leaked army manual on re-education camps? What about the militarization of DHS (which is under FEMA) with armored personnel carriers, 7,000 "assault rifles" and billions of rounds of hollowpoints (not target ammo and can't be used in warfare per Geneva conventions) - enough to carry on a 30yr war of when Iraq war was at it's peak - yet still won't get aid to Hurricane Sandy victims. What about the head of the CIA telling an IT conference that they want to hold all data for all time and the creation of the data center in Utah? What about the US saying Al Qaeda was in Libya and then turns around and supports "rebels" of the same region? Gaddafi was well liked by his people and they got 50 grand to buy a house once married. His mistake? Going to the gold Dinar currency and away from the Rothschild banks. Ask what would happen if oil was no longer traded in USD? How come our Federal Reserve (which is not federal...it is a private money making business that can print money at will) has not been audited, can't and probably won't? I could go on all day...people are starting to WAKE UP. There are attacks every day on our freedoms. The largest killer in history: democide. Chinese, Nazis and Soviets rounded up dissidents and they were shot. Can't happen? It has. They probably didn't think it could happen either. We don't want to even start down that road. The UN has usurped our own laws/supreme court before...now John Kerry is pushing for the UN Small Arms Treaty under the current administration. You had better be aware of all of this and asking questions. “It is the first responsibility of every citizen to question authority.” - Benjamin Franklin
This is what is dangerous:
Politicians forget that even after they are elected their job is for the people. More and more people see the gov't as their baby's dady and to make them safe. The intent of the gov't is to protect our unalienable rights and be For the People, By the People. Big gov't wants to dictate (tyranny) to you, it is about control and what has failed in every other big gov't in the past. That is why our country was supposed to be different. "A government big enough to give you everything you want is a government big enough to take from you everything you have."
I can see your point Chris. I would prefer you do the column like you did and say a follow up with more information will be forthcoming on such a date. . Personal opinion though.
Bart - Wonder how many Republicans have exploited veterans by having their pictures taken at VA hospitals ? Or expoited public paranoia by mugging for the cameras at NRA meetings? Or exploited flood or tornado victims by flying to a disaster site for a couple of hours of looking like they give a damn?
Or do you believe that exploitation is exclusively an Obama tactic?
"Republican Legislator Carmen Gumina is the proposal's sponsor. During last night's meeting, he said the legislation is intended to help law enforcement officials recover stolen property."
Hmmmm. Aren't Republicans the ones always whining that regulations are ruining the small business man? Must be sombody stole and hocked Carmen's watch and now he's looking for a little payback.
Not to mention Obama exploiting children in his photo-op when he announced he announced his new-found agenda for gun control in January. Pretty classy for a guy who now doesn't want children visiting the White House. It's HIS house, not the people's house I guess.
Darn, MJN, you're right: I missed that. Not to mention those political opportunists, doing the will of the majority; how crafty is that?
Mike, you bring up an important and timely point. Our reporter received the press release from the school district on Sunday night, containing the information in the above blog post. Now, do we post that, knowing full well it's incomplete and also knowing that we'll do a much more substantial story soon after? Or do we sit on it, knowing that all the other local media have also received it and are likely to go with it immediately? That conversation is one we have almost daily in our newsroom. Thanks for your feedback. Chris Fien, City news editor
Troll - You've forgotten that the Newtown shootings were a government plot to further the liberal agenda of disarming America (all except the criminals) to facilitate the seizure of power by a Muslim-socialist -UN cabal.
"When it meets Monday afternoon, the Monroe County Legislature’s Agenda/Charter Committee will take up legislation regarding pawn shops and some secondhand stores. The legislation was introduced by Republican Carmen Gumina of Webster, and would require dealers to hold any secondhand merchandise “coming into their business” for 14 days, says Gumina’s letter introducing the legislation."
Is this the same GOP who's spent decades whining that regulations are destroying the small business man? I'm shocked !
Comparing sensible gun laws to the East German Stasi . . . conspiracy theories all over the place . . . gratuitous shots at Joe Biden (right, what self-respecting Vice President has yet to shoot someone in the face?) . . . gratuitous dragging in soda into this thread . . . pretending the Second Amendment gives people unlimited access to weapons (note that machine guns, somehow, are still illegal); top off with not one word spoken of the Newtown massacre . . .
Troll: I don't think Obama's picture of him 'doing skeet shooting' was necessarily photoshopped. At least he's got the barrel pointed in the right direction. But yes, I think Cuomo and Obama are political opportunists. Now I hear Mayor 'Nanny' Bloomberg is taking note of Cuomo's backtracking on his new gun law. Bloomberg will allow the sale of 32-ounce cups but you can only put 16 ounces of soda in them.
I really do not understand the general lack of precise information in this article. For example, the new budget will be $728M. How does that compare to the current year budget? If te figures I found online are accurate, it is up 3%. And the student population is dropping again. Again, the information I fund indicates a 3% student decline, so the per capita costs are going up 6%. Is it too much to expect reporters to provide simple information, or are reporters expected to simply function as PR representatives?
Don't take any advice on guns from Dick Cheney. That wily Andrew Cuomo, just waiting for 20 children and six teachers to be murdered in under ten minutes. What luck. Truth is, Bart, most gun owners are appalled by the behavior of the NRA-types. That's where the tipping point has finally been reached. Do you actually think like Obama had pictures of him shooting skeet photoshopped or something?
MJN. I don't contend that it's a conspiracy. It's just part of Cuomo's overall political plan. You said yourself he's a politician, and he's following the liberal agenda on gun control, competing with Obama and other like-minded governors to see how far he can go to limit the 2nd amendment. Cuomo's advantage is that he has a liberal legislature full of toadies that jump whenever he tells them to. It's comical how little they know about firearms, and it's embarrassing (for them) to see how many mistakes they made in their haste to cram Cuomo's legislation through. I laugh at Cuomo when he says "I have a gun" as if to imply he's a supporter of gun rights. Right. Just like Obama saying "I do skeet shooting all the time". And don't take any advice on guns from Joe Biden!
Bart - Sorry, but I still don't see the Cuomo Conspiracy. Andy is a politician, first, last and always. And so far I think we can all agree that he's been pretty savvy in taking positions that the public in general supports. So unless one believes that he's part of some sinister Hitlerian plot to deprive New Yorkers of their guns for reasons unknown, I think it's safe (so to speak) to assume that he believes that his SAFE Act is what the majority of voters , both in the state and nationally, want. He may be wrong (and hence not as good a politician as I think). Only time and the next election will tell.
However, I can't disagree that he has handled the matter badly and pushed the legislation through with unseemly haste (but with the cooperation of the GOP). And I have every expectation that some sections will be found by the courts to be unacceptable constitutional infringments and possibly the process itself to have been a violation of state law. But at the end of the day it's the voters who will have the final say on what he accomplished and how he accomplished it.
You wrote "Bart - Actually, this program you're so concerned about was rolled out about a year ago. Must be Cuomo was conspiring to take away your Second Amendment rights even then !"
Yes, I believe Cuomo had been working on his gun control law since he took office, just waiting for the opportunity (excuse) to implement it. The snitch component was rolled out ahead of his gun law, part of the plan to enforce it.
We are to have sufficient arms of common use. .223/5.56 is the most common rifle in use. It is not a "machine gun" nor fully automatic. It is SEMI-automatic. Our founding fathers would use modern muskets and keep the militarization of police/gov't/DHS balanced by We the People.
This is about control and the gradual loss of liberties while those in our entitlement society beg for government to keep them safe rather than to protect the *rights* of the people with *small* gov't as stated in the Dec. of Indep.
"A government big enough to give you everything you want, is a government big enough to take away everything that you have."
No-one has issues with criminals being taken off the street and kept off the street...but turning neighbor against neighbor is an old tactic used for control.
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