Thanks for the wikipedia research and report. I'm aware of the legality. I was pointing out that group marriage is significantly more complicated to legislate than gay marriage, and can't really be pushed under the same banner. My example was deliberately extreme but possible.
Good news ylem !!!! In 1878 the Supreme Court ruled that the 1862 congressional prohibition of polygamy was constitutional (Reynolds v. United States, 98 US 145). So you’re needlessly worrying about those "10 people all married to each other with kids, some in that group married to others in other groups". Perhaps your time would be better spent pondering the moral, legal and religious implications of humans marrying mermaids or space aliens.
I wonderif the "young man" she spoked to was also her pollster. What an embarrassingly obvious political flipflop. Richards supported gay marriage BEFORE it was law not after it became politically convenient (like after Warren got called out for her lack of support). Phony as a 3 dollar bill.
You're proposing a free-for-all. Virtually every law on the books would have to be redone to accomodate the possibility of extremely complicated relations (10 people all married to each other with kids, some in that group married to others in other groups...) We're talking about infeasible on a mathematical level here. Too complicated to justify, especially considering that most of the West just doesn't want it.
There is no good reason to deny that we must keep evolving until an adult, regardless of gender, sexual orientation, monogamy or polyamory, race, or religion is free to marry any and all consenting adults. The limited same-gender freedom to marry is a great and historic step, but is NOT full marriage equality, because equality "just for some" is not equality. Let's stand up for EVERY ADULT'S right to marry the person(s) they love. Get on the right side of history!
Great idea. Punish business owners because the police are incapable of dealing with the actual problem: theft.
The race for mayor is lacking Democrats brave enough to talk about real issues. To find out what the true issues are, voters will need to listen to Green Party candidate Alex White.
Several years ago NY State legislative houses tried almost the same law proposal and it failed. Why? It was an impossible law that was
1) not enforceable by police agencies
2) a burden to police agencies - in this case it would be the Sheriff's department
3) poorly defined the people to be covered under the law
4) poorly defined the merchandise to be covered under the law
5) created undue financial burden on small business owners - in the current proposal that's $250 per year
6) created impossible reporting requirements that would in effect make criminals out of the business owners who must report
Nothing has been resolved in the Monroe County proposal to fix any of these problems. It will not solve crime nor help in the recovery of stolen goods. It will cause businesses to close thereby affecting a net loss to retail sales tax coming into the county.
Anyone who sells "some old jewelry" will be affected by this proposal. It is imperative to speak to your county representative about the failings of the proposed law. And plan to attend the hearing on April 9 @ 6.
In my opinion, Rochester should thank God for Tom Richards. Not for nothing but look at any northeast city run by 'real' Democrats. Cesspits starting from city hall down to the street level. Rochester has its problems but at least our mayor is frank, thoughtful, & putting forward some sensible ideas.
He is a huge as-s whole. His commercials should be shut down by the FCC. There is also a big problem with his recording equipment, as he comes through all my televisions sounding muffled and distorted to a point where I think he is ruining my TV speakers. He is blowing them, not good. There is no reason to yell and scream like that. He is pathetic and a disgrace. He should be shut down immediately, or at least be forced to record a commercial without screaming. Get your equipment fixed already, it sucks. You're redundant too. Did I leave anything out?
You should have mentioned that Richards' mentor, our current Jr. Assistant Gov., Bob Duffy, was a life-long Republican who turned his coat to run for mayor, proving once again the old adage, "All it takes to be mayor of Rochester is a pulse and a Democratic party card....and the pulse is optional".
But more important is the point being overlooked here. Namely that it's the quality of the candidate that's important, not the quality of the candidate's party membership. And since the day Tom Ryan left office the quality of Rochester's mayors has dropped percipitously.
Very interesting that folks outside my township have the right to decide for us what we do with our resources. I say do the review, if necessary, but allow the local leaders and residents to decide how our resources are to be used.
April 1 would have been a far more appropriate date for the judge to dispose of this bad joke lawsuit,
Absolutely! The third party debate during the last presidential election was amazing and it was a low down dirty shame it was ignored by the media. The ideas were fresh, the issues were discussed, the candidates were respectful towards one another, and each candidate had the concerns of the American people foremost in their thoughts, not the concerns of the lobbyists or whoever stuffed their pockets with money. Our country has been "for sale" for far too long. The government is supposed to work for the people, not the other way around, and corruption has been embraced by Repubs and Dems alike. I can't take anyone seriously who says one side is better than the other.
Polarizing people is working for the powers that be. We truly do need third parties and more of them. They can't even get on a national TV debate, the system is rigged by the two main parties. Check out the Libertarian Party (not to be confused with Liberal). If enough people realize that voting 3rd party is not a waste but instead voting for a true, positive change we can regain the power for the people.
History records that the money changers have used every form of abuse, intrigue, deceit, and violent means possible to maintain their control over governments by controlling the money and its issuance.- James Madison
1849: Gutele Schnaper, Mayer Amschel Rothschild’s wife dies. Before her death she would state, “If my sons did not want wars, there would be none.”
"Give me the power to issue a nation's money; then I do not care who makes the law."
David Shaw- I applaud you for being more direct, honest, and informative than this "newspaper" has ever been. Our country is going down the tubes and BOTH parties are to blame. And the longer we all stick to rooting for one side or the other rather than demanding truth and justice from our "leaders" from both sides, the harder it will be to climb our way back up.
This is great. Can't wait to see the excellent candidates Joe Morelle gets to run.
Ever have more questions than answers when you read/listen to the news? The Founding Fathers gave the free press the protection it must have to bare the secrets of government and inform the people.- Hugo Black
Comparing the Bush administration to the Obama administration is comparing apples to apples. Patriot Act, rendition, drones, indefinite detention, suspension of habeas corpus, far reaching executive orders...it grows and grows. Bush sat with the kids on 9/11 while we were under attack. Obama was on his 7th or so vacation golfing when being told about Bengazi numerous times...then top brass were replaced who disobeyed orders to help Americans in need. Look up free speech zones and the attempt to prevent protesting anyone under secret service protection (that can be anyone who the president decides). Don't forget Holder being in charge of Fast and Furious yet claiming executive privilege to deny an equal branch of gov't, Congress, to investigate the deaths of hundreds. What about saying we need more open gov't then making the penalties for whistle blowers even stricter? What about asking your generals if they would fire on their own citizens?
Funny what was considered conspiracy decades ago is now the norm. See the gradual loss of liberties? Have you followed up on NDAA? USS Liberty attack. US purposefully spreading STD's in Alabma and Guatemala and radiation in Kansas City? What about the leaked army manual on re-education camps? What about the militarization of DHS (which is under FEMA) with armored personnel carriers, 7,000 "assault rifles" and billions of rounds of hollowpoints (not target ammo and can't be used in warfare per Geneva conventions) - enough to carry on a 30yr war of when Iraq war was at it's peak - yet still won't get aid to Hurricane Sandy victims. What about the head of the CIA telling an IT conference that they want to hold all data for all time and the creation of the data center in Utah? What about the US saying Al Qaeda was in Libya and then turns around and supports "rebels" of the same region? Gaddafi was well liked by his people and they got 50 grand to buy a house once married. His mistake? Going to the gold Dinar currency and away from the Rothschild banks. Ask what would happen if oil was no longer traded in USD? How come our Federal Reserve (which is not federal...it is a private money making business that can print money at will) has not been audited, can't and probably won't? I could go on all day...people are starting to WAKE UP. There are attacks every day on our freedoms. The largest killer in history: democide. Chinese, Nazis and Soviets rounded up dissidents and they were shot. Can't happen? It has. They probably didn't think it could happen either. We don't want to even start down that road. The UN has usurped our own laws/supreme court before...now John Kerry is pushing for the UN Small Arms Treaty under the current administration. You had better be aware of all of this and asking questions. “It is the first responsibility of every citizen to question authority.” - Benjamin Franklin
This is what is dangerous:
Politicians forget that even after they are elected their job is for the people. More and more people see the gov't as their baby's dady and to make them safe. The intent of the gov't is to protect our unalienable rights and be For the People, By the People. Big gov't wants to dictate (tyranny) to you, it is about control and what has failed in every other big gov't in the past. That is why our country was supposed to be different. "A government big enough to give you everything you want is a government big enough to take from you everything you have."
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