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Re: “The question we need to answer before we talk about dissolving the RCSD

This is a significant topic and City's slant is as expected. But it is Yugoboy's response that deserves attention.

Essentially a solution exists but because "racism" it will never come to pass. It is worth noting that I believe Yugoboy is in fact an RCSD employee.

First, the obvious. The solution has in fact been tried for decades within RCSD. Has there been a bigger - albeit unstated - policy goal than to get "integrated" classrooms and in particular to get poor African American students into middle class/mostly white programs? Look at the history of East High School. And what has been the upshot of this double standards-based effort? The dominant attitude of African American students (certainly by middle and high school) is basically don't study (and sometimes characterized by "don't be white"). I volunteer tutor 4 days a week and this hugely self-evident.

And what happened to those middle class programs? Well some qualified kids had to directly be displaced by this policy. But the secondary effect is creating programs with big differences in the student backgrounds and interests. This is a big problem. What would East High School's basketball program/legacy have been under a policy of integrating several Asian American kids onto teams?

But the deeper issue is honesty. Yugoboy knows this. The accusation that suburbanites are biased against skin color as opposed to behavioral issues is absurd. By the way, for overt racism is there any group that demonstrates more of it than young urban African Americans?

It is good to honest about important issues - even PC-ified topics like race.

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Posted by Ted Christopher on 03/13/2013 at 11:32 AM

Re: “The question we need to answer before we talk about dissolving the RCSD

What would we do with the students of the dissolved district?

If the answer is to divvy them up between the various suburban districts, we can just end speculation now. That'll never happen. Suburban parents would never tolerate "those" students coming to their child's school. (I don't care how you phrase it, the fear isn't of low performing kids in the schools; that just makes their children look better. The fear is having brown and black kids in the schools with their children. Irrational fear which under a less polite umbrella is known as racism.)

If the answer is to make a Metro/County school district... see above; except the parents would find a way to make "busing" the issue, and kids would be relegated to "neighborhood schools" with the same issues we already have. If that could be overcome, all you'd be doing is promoting a significant jump in charter and private schools and/or white flight to the 5 surrounding counties.

It is an interesting idea to contemplate, and I have long felt that the only really good way to raise the performance of many urban kids at once is to send them to suburban schools. A significant majority of the kids would find a way to make up the gap. The problem is that the parents will never stand for it. Suburban parents would also bemoan the amount of their money would spent on city schools, if only to improve facilities.

As much as I could and would support this idea, it will never come to pass here. That ship has already sailed.

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Posted by Yugoboy on 03/13/2013 at 8:30 AM

Re: “Police chief responds to problems with city's red-light camera program

Yugoboy - If as you claim these red light cameras are unconstitutional then some court must have issued a ruling of which I am unaware as only the courts, not you nor I, are qualified to do so. So could you post the link to that decision?

I'll avoid repeating the obvious fact that the violation of ANY traffic law can result in a fine (or worse) and that Rochester's use of red light cameras is therefor no more mercenary or unjust than is the enforcement of any law, and instead focus on those two decisions that plague you when you approach a red light with an attendent camera. You say you have to decide either to brake and risk being rear-ended, or stomping on the gas to beat the light. Out of curiosity, how does this differ from the available options in pre-camera days? Surely you're not implying that you would have violated the law and run a red light in former days because you knew that the chances of being caught were practically nil?

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Posted by MJN on 03/09/2013 at 12:46 PM

Re: “[UPDATED] Shale drilling moratorium on today's Assembly agenda

The NY State Assembly has done its part. Now it is our turn to do our part. Contact your NY State Senator and urge her or him to pass the Senate version of the 2 year fracking moratorium.

Find your NY State Senator: http://www.nysenate.gov/senators

Contact NY Senator Joe Robach: http://www.nysenate.gov/senator/joseph-e-r…

Posted by Tom Janowski on 03/07/2013 at 7:15 PM

Re: “Police chief responds to problems with city's red-light camera program

The red light camera$ are $uppo$ed to be for $afety. The obviou$ interpretation i$ that the City of Roche$ter $ee$ it$ citizen$ as nothing more than ATM$.

When I $ee a red light camera inter$ection and I think I might be at ri$sk, I take 1 of 2 action$: either I $lam on the brake$ to avoid the ticket, thu$ ri$king getting rear-ended, or I jam on the ga$ to get through before I get bu$ted.

I, for one, do not feel any $afer with the$e uncon$titutional robocop$, nor with law enforcement being done by private for-profit companie$.

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Posted by Yugoboy on 03/07/2013 at 1:15 PM

Re: “Police chief responds to problems with city's red-light camera program

(NOTE: Sarcasm Alert !)

Cicero - If as you posit , these suburbanite drivers are going to stay away from Rochester because so many of them will be receiving tickets for running red lights, then perhaps we city dwellers will be a lot safer if so many poor drivers stay off our streets.

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Posted by MJN on 03/07/2013 at 10:51 AM

Re: “Police chief responds to problems with city's red-light camera program

The one issue that no one has talked about is that this idiotic red light camera program gives suburban drivers one more reason to avoid going downtown. The city of Rochester desperately needs suburbanites to spend $ downtown in High Falls and the East End. One or two $50 tickets will make them think twice and could be enough incentive for them to decide to spend their hard-earned money at Tinseltown or the neighborhood bar instead.

Think about that, City Council...

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Posted by Cicero on 03/07/2013 at 6:28 AM

Re: “Police chief responds to problems with city's red-light camera program

How many more illicit tickets need to be issued, and how many more tax payers' dollars must be wasted before Rochester simply dismantles this idiotic program? In LA it was found that because the driver does not sign a promise to appear in court they can simply ignore the ticket without fear of prosecution. LA became so overwhelmed with the backlog of non-paying alleged red light runners that the entire program was ultimately ignored and dismantled by the city officials. Oh, let's not forget how many millions of dollars LA was expecting to earn ended up costing them millions more in unexpected costs while Redflex did just fine. What a waste there, and here, too. For me my vote will do my talking when it comes to upcoming elections, where the fools who bought into this little sham will not get my nod of approval.

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Posted by NotRedneck on 03/06/2013 at 10:37 PM

Re: “Police chief responds to problems with city's red-light camera program

One of the problems with the short yellow lights is a traffic engineer explained it to me is the "dilemma zone". That is the time when you are close enough to the yellow light that you have to decide:
1. Do I have enough time to safely stop without slamming into the windshield
2. Should I just do the yellow light since I can't meet #1

Those who say, "well they ran the red light" don't get the "dilemma zone". If you are driving at or below the speed limit you should have time to stop safely. If the yellow light is shortened that time disappears and as a driver you are now stuck with a real problem.

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Posted by myobb on 03/06/2013 at 10:08 PM

Re: “Police chief responds to problems with city's red-light camera program

I have to side with Sheppard on this one, more or less.

The "less' is that this current problem would probably have been detected, identified, explained and resolved sooner were the red light cameras and the ticketing process operated by city employees out of the Public Safety Building rather than by some sleazy out-of-town company.

The "more" is the fact that the fines imposed for running red lights are no less legitimate than the fines imposed on speeding tickets, parking tickets or any other traffic violation. Does the city make a few bucks? Of course. Do they make a few bucks on ALL traffic and parking fines? Of course. So do we dispense with these laws or alter the manner in which they are enforced simply because the city makes a few bucks? Of course not. Bottom line. You break the law, you get fined.

Oh yeah, by the way, I've been nailed and fined by one of these cameras for running a red light. But apparently I'm the only recipient of such a ticket willing to admit that I was guilty as hell.

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Posted by MJN on 03/06/2013 at 9:05 PM

Re: “Police chief responds to problems with city's red-light camera program

Define deception: " . . . a whole lot of people are not stopping for lights,” - Its more than a definition of Fairness when the angle of the camera isn't the 'Won-by-a-Nose Angle' and the Red Light has been Red Only for one-tenth of a second after a Yellow Light that lasted for roughly 3 seconds. Its not just the Yellow is too short the Green is Variable and makes driving dangerous. The vast bulk of these Red Light Robo-Tickets aren't folks that Clearly Ran A Red Light! These Robo-Cam Red-Light contraptions are an Ugly Festering Painful Reminder that Capitalism's Greed and Corporations have Taken Over our Once Great Country.

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Posted by Xemu X. Xenu Jr. on 03/06/2013 at 10:16 AM

Re: “Lej committee blocks gun proposal

The best way to keep guns out of buildings is to declare them 'gun free zones' and put up signs stating as such. It works in schools, doesn't it?

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Posted by Max on 03/06/2013 at 8:23 AM

Re: “[UPDATED] Hey, state comptroller, tell us something we don't know

Has anyone noticed that all of the measures taken by the city involve screwing workers? There's no talk about taxing huge projects fairly or maybe to stop giving away so much in tax breaks and low-interest loans to out of town developers. Why isn't anyone calling the Mayor and City Council on this?

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Posted by Dave Atias on 03/05/2013 at 9:21 PM

Re: “Is Fuccillo ad offensive?

So he's wearing a big curly wig. He's not speaking in any dialect that could be mocking anyone. I used to hate those old 'Irond-a Quoit-a' Dodge commercials with 'Vinnie' and 'Angelo'. Talk about stereotyping. But everyone seemed OK with that.

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Posted by Bart on 03/05/2013 at 7:58 AM

Re: “Is Fuccillo ad offensive?

On the topic of offensive TV ads, what about the incredibly tastless Time Warner spot in which a zombie is shot in the head with an arrow splattering blood across a door? Great family viewing for the kiddies to watch again and again and again and again.

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Posted by MJN on 03/04/2013 at 11:39 PM

Re: “Is Fuccillo ad offensive?

All of their stuff is junk. If not offensive, just truly tasteless. Kind of like, "really, you wanna' go there?". Why not just put on black face. Shakin' my head.

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Posted by Margaret Madge Madigan on 03/04/2013 at 3:51 PM

Re: “Is Fuccillo ad offensive?

I don't think so. I think it's a bad joke though. "White guy basketball player with an afro" was funny when it was in Fletch in 1986. Now, it's a dated joke. Seriously, how prevalent is the blown out afro anymore? As sloppy as it looks, it's almost like parody of "white guy basketball player with an afro".

However, I think reflecting on this kind of stuff IS important and it is to be expected. This country is moving in a post racial phase. We can debate the speed at which it is happening. but it is happening. We shouldn't be afraid to ask ourselves whether something is racist. Just as we shouldn't be afraid to make a distinction between cultural insensitivity and cultural humor.

Asking if something is offensive is not the same as being offensive.

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Posted by zubalove on 03/04/2013 at 1:52 PM

Re: “Is Fuccillo ad offensive?

Seriously? You're offended by that?

Since now the simple wearing of a black fright wig is going to get you labelled a racist? There was NO use of any "hot words", no fake "ebonic" accent, nothing at all but one guy wearing an exaggeratedly curly wig. It wasn't exactly tightly "Afro," it was loose.

Had there been any sort of other loaded references or terms, I might be with you, but to be offended by that AND to bring it to the public's attention in this way just screams "knee-jerk liberal" as well as over-the-top political correctness.

At some point you just gotta let it go. It's not like they are known for Cleo-winning, slickly-produced, well-thought-out ads. It's quick, cheap ads done almost amateurishly. Due to the sheer number of ads they produce every year, somewhere there's going to be something you don't like. Wait a week or two... they'll move on to some other dumb, loud ad.

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Posted by Yugoboy on 03/04/2013 at 1:04 PM

Re: “Is Fuccillo ad offensive?

which one? There are a few horribly produced commercial spots on their website...

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Posted by Lynne Ann on 03/04/2013 at 12:46 PM

Re: “[UPDATED] Hey, state comptroller, tell us something we don't know

"The report also points out the disparity in the amount of aid Rochester gets from the state compared to the other three “Big Four” cities"

Not to worry - That's why we sent the Honorable Mr. Bob Duffy to Albany. No doubt he's hot on the case... right?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f4zyjLyBp64

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Posted by J on 03/04/2013 at 12:19 PM

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