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Re: “Our guns and our fear

A must read no matter what your position. History is very telling of what disarming citizens will do. Number one killer of all time...democide...death by your own or another government (war, genocide, etc).

Americans have the right and advantage of being armed - unlike the citizens of other countries whose governments are afraid to trust the people with arms. -James Madison

http://www.thenewamerican.com/usnews/item/…

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Posted by David Shaw on 03/28/2013 at 8:32 AM

Re: “Our guns and our fear

Cosmetics do nothing to the effectiveness of a firearm. That's the problem...misinformation with no unbiased sources and much of a general populace who is then misinformed. The D&C, owned by Gannett, has spread flat-out lies and biased stats. A sling swivel is not to attach a grenade launcher to, which are already banned, but placed in Feinstein's bill just for an emotional response. Hollywood doesn't help making it look like guns have unlimited bullets and silencers make guns silent.

Just like religions, you can't lump gun owners all together. That is one trick used to demonize all gun owners, 99.999% of which have not committed a crime nor will. A single mother protecting her kids does not have the same objectives as a sportsman or a competition/recreational shooter. A "prepper" also has different goals. The idea big gov't will always be there in an emergency if a fallacy even with FEMA, which has now become highly militarized versus humanitarian. Natural distasters of late have people shouting for the gov't to do something...rather than having been prepared! Of course there are all sorts of products out there...many for a zombie apocalypse...it is all marketing and sells because that is what is popular.

Single shot idea's main problem is this: when you disarm law-abiding citizens will the criminals simple turn in their multishot firearms? Will the military/police as well? How effective is one shot in a self-defense scenario, especially more than one attacker obviously. The police hit rate is less than 20%, would have to look it up. For sportsman, myself included, I know I have needed more than one shot. Wounded game disappearing into the brush is not ideal for an ethical take. I am sure you heard of the woman attacked in her attic. 5/6 shots hit the guy in the face and body yet he survived. The lowest recoil firearms for those of low stature to use and popular for concealed carry are small caliber where one more shot is needed and can be life or death. Also, most firearms are used for sporting/recreation...it is simply too much of a burden to reload after each shot. It would even change olympic sports where shooters get on target and need to stay on target. In the case of Virginia Tech the shooter used 17 five and ten round magazines. When the victims are disarmed or there are magazine limits, criminals take reign. In the milliseconds needed to change out a magazine they would have you believe you could rush the gunman. This has been proven false, it would be suicide. The ideas that our Founding Fathers would only use a one shot musket versus a modern musket (black rifle) is absurd. They did know the value and inevitability of technology and mult-shot firearms did exist even then.

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Posted by David Shaw on 03/27/2013 at 10:07 PM

Re: “Choosing a mayor in a challenging time

Thoughtful, necessary and timely commentary. Thank you Mary Anna.

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Posted by Sterling Comfort on 03/27/2013 at 8:00 PM

Re: “Judge voids Southern Tier village's water sales

Very interesting that folks outside my township have the right to decide for us what we do with our resources. I say do the review, if necessary, but allow the local leaders and residents to decide how our resources are to be used.

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Posted by Janice Snapp on 03/27/2013 at 4:28 PM

Re: “RPO legal hearing postponed

April 1 would have been a far more appropriate date for the judge to dispose of this bad joke lawsuit,

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Posted by MJN on 03/27/2013 at 3:28 PM

Re: “Our guns and our fear

I have to agree with gun owners on one point. That is the definition of a particular style of gun as an assault rifle is not necessarily a deterrent to a killer. However, there would be one very effective bit of legislation that could have a real effect on limiting the potential for mass type killing. That would be to eliminate all firearms with the exception of single shot weapons. Specifically,legal arms could only hold a single cartridge which must be manually reloaded after each shot. This would not only eliminate the potential for mass shootings, but it would also increase gun safety for legal sporting use. As someone who has a lifelong involvement in wildlife conservation, I am at the receiving end of a load of sporting and gun catalogs. The recent trend in ads for thousands of rounds of ammunition, high capacity magazines, and burial containers for hiding guns and ammo, make me think our so called civilized sportsmen are less civilized than I had hoped.

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Posted by Leland Brun on 03/27/2013 at 2:23 PM

Re: “Our guns and our fear

Firearms are different than cars or dogs. For one driving is a privilege, not a right. Dogs are registered with the local gov't. You are discussing personal property however. Your car is not impounded when there is a gas tank limit. Your dog is not taken when it grows to be 300lbs.

You only have to see time and time again when it happens. Janet Reno said decades ago said "Waiting periods are only a step. Registration is only a step. The prohibition of private firearms is the goal." Many other gun grabbers are now stating the same goals. Feinstein, Soros, Bloomberg, the female democrat in IL etc etc.

Here are some recent examples from all around the world (Yahoo answers...blah I know, look at the best answer, it checks out): http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qi…

This is good as well:
http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2013/02/11…

You don't hear about how NY nixed the COBIS 4million/yr program that did not solve one single crime...yet was another burden not only on law-abiding gun owners but NY taxpayers. Canada spend billions on registry:
http://www.forbes.com/sites/danielfisher/2…

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Posted by David Shaw on 03/27/2013 at 1:14 PM

Re: “Our guns and our fear

David Shaw, you mention that "there is only one reason for registration: confiscation." Has the government come to take away everyone's cars? Those are registered. What about dogs? Those are registered, too, and I don't remember any jackbooted thugs coming to take my puppy away.

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Posted by Interested Reader on 03/27/2013 at 12:33 PM

Re: “Choosing a mayor in a challenging time

Democrats have held the seat of Mayor in Rochester since 1974. That's 40 years. Forty straight years. Is our city better for it? Doesn't seem like it. It's time for a change Rochester.

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Posted by Eric Maloney on 03/27/2013 at 12:12 PM

Re: “Lawsuit challenges state gun control laws

Absolutely! The third party debate during the last presidential election was amazing and it was a low down dirty shame it was ignored by the media. The ideas were fresh, the issues were discussed, the candidates were respectful towards one another, and each candidate had the concerns of the American people foremost in their thoughts, not the concerns of the lobbyists or whoever stuffed their pockets with money. Our country has been "for sale" for far too long. The government is supposed to work for the people, not the other way around, and corruption has been embraced by Repubs and Dems alike. I can't take anyone seriously who says one side is better than the other.

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Posted by Peking Humonculous on 03/27/2013 at 11:24 AM

Re: “Feedback 3/27

Kenyatta Dacosta - Please provide backup for your claim that , "Twelve million Germans were worked to death or killed outright years after first registering and then surrendering their firearms.”

By the way, you should know, although it’s obvious you don’t, that gun confiscation and control was imposed on Germany by the Weimar government in 1919 via the, “Regulations on Weapons Ownership", which declared that "all firearms, as well as all kinds of firearms ammunition, are to be surrendered immediately”. This confiscation was reinforced in 1920 when the “Law on the Disarmament of the People” took effect and clarified that confiscation was to be applied to military-type weapons possessed by ex-soldiers.

In 1928 Germany enacted the “Law on Firearms and Ammunition” which relaxed gun restrictions and put into effect a firearm licensing system which revoked the 1919 “Regulations”.

In 1938, five years after taking power, and far from confiscating weapons as today’s NeoCons are so fond of claiming, the Nazis introduced firearm and ammunitiuon gun regulation legislation which LIBERALIZED the 1928 law and exempted Nazi party members, government workers and other categories of “Good Germans” (i.e. non-Jews) from many of the previous restrictions. (NOTE: the famous quote attributed to Hitler by the NRA types, “This year will go down in history! For the first time, a civilized nation has full gun registration! Our streets will be safer, our police more efficient, and the world will follow our lead into the future!” is a fake.)

Thus, far from disarming a helpless nation, Hitler was ensuring that his followers would be heavily armed to “protect society”. Kind of like what Wayne LaPierre and the NRA has in mind.

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Posted by MJN on 03/27/2013 at 11:06 AM

Re: “Choosing a mayor in a challenging time

The current leadership has been focused on slashing services to meet reduced revenues and not focusing nearly enough on actually growing revenues.

There's a generational shift occurring right now. Urban living is much more popular among young adults and new empty nesters alike. Developers have been cashing in on this trend by building new apartments, condos and townhouses in the city.

You'd think that the city would be cashing in too, but that hasn't been the case. There have been a lot of tax giveaways to the developers instead. The logic is that the tax breaks are a catalyst for the development, but this development would have happened due to market demands regardless.

Alex White is the only candidate who's talked about making sure developers pay their fair share of the costs of the infrastructure they profit from. I'm tired of being asked to choose between closing a library or a rec center so that we can slash taxes on luxury condos. New leadership is needed across the board and I hope people look to the Green Party to provide it.

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Posted by Jason Partyka on 03/27/2013 at 10:42 AM

Re: “Lawsuit challenges state gun control laws

Polarizing people is working for the powers that be. We truly do need third parties and more of them. They can't even get on a national TV debate, the system is rigged by the two main parties. Check out the Libertarian Party (not to be confused with Liberal). If enough people realize that voting 3rd party is not a waste but instead voting for a true, positive change we can regain the power for the people.

History records that the money changers have used every form of abuse, intrigue, deceit, and violent means possible to maintain their control over governments by controlling the money and its issuance.- James Madison

1849: Gutele Schnaper, Mayer Amschel Rothschild’s wife dies. Before her death she would state, “If my sons did not want wars, there would be none.”

ANSELM ROTHSCHILD
"Give me the power to issue a nation's money; then I do not care who makes the law."

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Posted by David Shaw on 03/27/2013 at 10:21 AM

Re: “Lawsuit challenges state gun control laws

David Shaw- I applaud you for being more direct, honest, and informative than this "newspaper" has ever been. Our country is going down the tubes and BOTH parties are to blame. And the longer we all stick to rooting for one side or the other rather than demanding truth and justice from our "leaders" from both sides, the harder it will be to climb our way back up.

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Posted by Peking Humonculous on 03/27/2013 at 9:58 AM

Re: “Perinton town races could open up Lej seats

This is great. Can't wait to see the excellent candidates Joe Morelle gets to run.

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Posted by steve on 03/27/2013 at 9:50 AM

Re: “West Main Street church keeps 'historic' label

It is imperative that we as a community seek to preserve and rehabilitate what part of our history we still have left. These places can be anchors for neighborhoods, offering new life, as should be protected at all costs

Posted by Patrick Chase on 03/27/2013 at 3:41 AM

Re: “Lawsuit challenges state gun control laws

Ever have more questions than answers when you read/listen to the news? The Founding Fathers gave the free press the protection it must have to bare the secrets of government and inform the people.- Hugo Black

http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/upshot/army-em…

http://www.filmsforaction.org/news/cnn_whi…

http://www.filmsforaction.org/news/cnn_whi…

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Posted by David Shaw on 03/26/2013 at 10:28 PM

Re: “Lawsuit challenges state gun control laws

Comparing the Bush administration to the Obama administration is comparing apples to apples. Patriot Act, rendition, drones, indefinite detention, suspension of habeas corpus, far reaching executive orders...it grows and grows. Bush sat with the kids on 9/11 while we were under attack. Obama was on his 7th or so vacation golfing when being told about Bengazi numerous times...then top brass were replaced who disobeyed orders to help Americans in need. Look up free speech zones and the attempt to prevent protesting anyone under secret service protection (that can be anyone who the president decides). Don't forget Holder being in charge of Fast and Furious yet claiming executive privilege to deny an equal branch of gov't, Congress, to investigate the deaths of hundreds. What about saying we need more open gov't then making the penalties for whistle blowers even stricter? What about asking your generals if they would fire on their own citizens?

Funny what was considered conspiracy decades ago is now the norm. See the gradual loss of liberties? Have you followed up on NDAA? USS Liberty attack. US purposefully spreading STD's in Alabma and Guatemala and radiation in Kansas City? What about the leaked army manual on re-education camps? What about the militarization of DHS (which is under FEMA) with armored personnel carriers, 7,000 "assault rifles" and billions of rounds of hollowpoints (not target ammo and can't be used in warfare per Geneva conventions) - enough to carry on a 30yr war of when Iraq war was at it's peak - yet still won't get aid to Hurricane Sandy victims. What about the head of the CIA telling an IT conference that they want to hold all data for all time and the creation of the data center in Utah? What about the US saying Al Qaeda was in Libya and then turns around and supports "rebels" of the same region? Gaddafi was well liked by his people and they got 50 grand to buy a house once married. His mistake? Going to the gold Dinar currency and away from the Rothschild banks. Ask what would happen if oil was no longer traded in USD? How come our Federal Reserve (which is not federal...it is a private money making business that can print money at will) has not been audited, can't and probably won't? I could go on all day...people are starting to WAKE UP. There are attacks every day on our freedoms. The largest killer in history: democide. Chinese, Nazis and Soviets rounded up dissidents and they were shot. Can't happen? It has. They probably didn't think it could happen either. We don't want to even start down that road. The UN has usurped our own laws/supreme court before...now John Kerry is pushing for the UN Small Arms Treaty under the current administration. You had better be aware of all of this and asking questions. “It is the first responsibility of every citizen to question authority.” - Benjamin Franklin

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Posted by David Shaw on 03/26/2013 at 10:20 PM

Re: “Lawsuit challenges state gun control laws

This is what is dangerous:
http://m.washingtontimes.com/news/2013/mar…

Politicians forget that even after they are elected their job is for the people. More and more people see the gov't as their baby's dady and to make them safe. The intent of the gov't is to protect our unalienable rights and be For the People, By the People. Big gov't wants to dictate (tyranny) to you, it is about control and what has failed in every other big gov't in the past. That is why our country was supposed to be different. "A government big enough to give you everything you want is a government big enough to take from you everything you have."

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Posted by David Shaw on 03/26/2013 at 9:48 PM

Re: “Few layoffs in RCSD budget for next year

I can see your point Chris. I would prefer you do the column like you did and say a follow up with more information will be forthcoming on such a date. . Personal opinion though.

Posted by Mike on 03/26/2013 at 2:50 PM

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