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Comment Archives: stories: News & Opinion

Re: “Frankel weighing second county exec bid

This city sux, can't wait to leave! i leave it to the entitlement people. They can suck this city for all it's worth. Go ahead keep sucking till there's nothing left, then what, move to another liberal state and suck some more? Wait till immagration by obama passes, we'll be hit w/droves of free aliens looking for social handouts that the state mandates the county to pay for. SEE YA SUCKERS!

7 likes, 10 dislikes
Posted by badthingk on 11/21/2014 at 11:05 AM

Re: “Human toll of school suspensions is devastating

" And it’s going to require teachers and administrators to create a different kind of school experience." I would like to request that we create a different world in which we put children first.

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Posted by Sara Oliveiri on 11/21/2014 at 6:10 AM

Re: “Frankel weighing second county exec bid

Too uninteresting and liberal for the County Of Monroe; too interested in himself; very sick and tired of politics and ready to lead the RBA... next choices please.

My thought is that the Monroe County Republican Committee will choose Jeff Adair, Legislative President to run if he is interested.

9 likes, 3 dislikes
Posted by crm135790 on 11/20/2014 at 7:56 PM

Re: “Report says red-light cameras effective at reducing accidents, violations

According to my calculations, the red light cameras are having a 5% positive safety impact. I didn't like that this report came out a few days before city council voted. The State Legislature similarly stifled any debate.

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Posted by Mike Bruton on 11/20/2014 at 5:47 PM

Re: “Bill Cosby, under fire, is scheduled for April show in Rochester

He said she said she said she said she said she said she said she said she said she said she said she said she said she said she said she said

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Posted by Robert on 11/20/2014 at 1:26 PM

Re: “Stealing Susan B.?

Whether or not Susan B. Anthony was for or opposed to abortion, the medical knowledge that was available to people then are very different from knowledge that we have now.

When we study history, we can't lose site of context.

We don't know what Lincoln, Douglass, or Anthony would do or what social stance they would take now with their "turn of the century" mindset.

Because they are dead.

Everything you do after the fact is pure speculation and that is why the House is different from the List. Why make definitive statements for the dead? Why stand behind the symbol of someone else and use their corpse as a puppet?

That's what religious zealots do with saviors.

I don't proclaim to know what Susan B. Anthony thought about abortion. She never made a definitive statement and that's why there's this discussion about it now.

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Posted by Porridge on 11/20/2014 at 11:30 AM

Re: “Stealing Susan B.?

The policy of Susan B Anthony’s newspaper did only 2 things: Opposed standing armies and opposed ads for abortion.

Editors of her newspaper called abortion ‘feticide’, and ‘child-murder’ and ‘a crime against humanity’.

"The Revolution", Susan B Anthony's newspaper, reiterated and explained the no-abortion policy multiple times.

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Posted by Marilyn on 11/20/2014 at 9:24 AM

Re: “City schools' suspensions challenged

I see a lot of posturing and "root" socio - economic quotes but what about step one , two, three etc.

Please...gottasayit has a solid idea and I have one too. Please make believe that I know nothing and present a step by step plan to turn it around. I feel all of your pain but the RCSD ADMIN and the Board have not and will not ( maybe ) turn it around so it is up to us. Please keep the step by step ideas coming. Please post them here so we can fix it or our city and county will be doomed in another 10 years.

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Posted by crm135790 on 11/20/2014 at 8:28 AM

Re: “Stealing Susan B.?

Susan B. Anthony was a passionate advocate for a better society through supporting women's independence - their rights to education, employment, etc. The context of her 1875 speech on "Social Purity" [which sounds like she is on stage in an auditorium, not writing legislation], she says this: "Marriage never will cease to be a wholly unequal partnership until the law recognizes the equal ownership in the joint earnings and possessions. The true relation of the sexes never can be attained until woman is free and equal with man. Neither in the making nor executing of the laws regulating these relations has woman’s had the slightest voice. The statutes for marriage and divorce, for adultery, breach of promise, seduction, rape, bigamy, abortion, infanticide—all were made by men. They, alone, decide who are guilty of violating these laws and what shall be their punishment, with judge, jury and advocate all men, with no woman’s voice heard in our courts, save as accused or witness, and in many cases the married woman is denied the poor privilege of testifying as to her own guilt or innocence of the crime charged against her." It reads to me that she would like women to get involved and write the law around abortion [these laws] "were all made by men." To distort this to serve another purpose is quite sad and really wrong. Let's let Ms. Anthony speak for herself:…

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Posted by Barbra Ann on 11/20/2014 at 7:24 AM

Re: “Bill Cosby, under fire, is scheduled for April show in Rochester

I am offended by the old allegations of sexual abuse of multiple women by BILL CLINTON. He was never charged or convicted of any of those, although they got him for lying in the Lewinsky affair and was impeached for it. I can't stand seeing and hearing Bill Clinton in interviews and on the campaign trail. Why does the media treat Clinton differently than Bill Cosby?

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Posted by Stephen on 11/20/2014 at 6:49 AM

Re: “City schools' suspensions challenged

The single biggest factor in the success of any school is its culture. Research strongly supports this and no one would disagree. The suspension study alone is fine but it will no doubt be followed by central office action and this will make things worse-not better. The D and C is already advocating for more alternative to suspension rooms not knowing that ATS and others programs don't work. I would challenge anyone that doubts me to go into a few of these rooms unannounced. Just do it. When will we stop trying to mandate fixes that rely on human emotions?

You can't mandate compassion or empathy or other emotions. We must fix the heart of the problem, the school culture. We must change the culture at its core and not get distracted by changing policies or procedures. Schools are about people and emotion first. Everyone has forgotten this. Here is your solution....Give the schools back to those who are in them. Pride and ownership drive caring and responsibility. Maslow was right. Environments that are family-like are more conducive to learning. These cultures will only happen if schools like the Pilot Schools in Boston are created. Just google Pilot Schools in Boston and be ready to cry about how far behind we are. The fixes must start in the classrooms, not the offices. The board, union leaders and the superintendent must trust that there are teachers, parents and principals who are more capable than they are.

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Posted by Gotta Say It Again on 11/20/2014 at 6:42 AM

Re: “Project Censored

I'm glad City has chosen to present Project Censored again. Hasn't it been several years since this annual report was covered?

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Posted by pononymous on 11/19/2014 at 10:56 PM

Re: “City schools' suspensions challenged

I so appreciate comments on this issue because they mean that some people still care about public education. The comments reflect exactly the complexities of preparing and schooling children who live in socio-emotional climates of desperation and despair as we fight to prepare them for college and careers yet to be discovered.
The struggle that those of us who grappled with and eventually vetted this report is that just like people in the ancient human societies that we force public school students to study academic concepts when we fundamentally understand that when one’s basic needs of food, clothing, shelter, safety and familial love are not met, then the intellectual pursuit of formalized education is a moot point. Therefore, when a child reveals through their behavior what we already know to be true (they are not socially, emotionally or mentally prepared to appreciate compulsory [forced] education) then we need to believe them the first time. As educational experts, conscientious reporters or astute politicians, we need to consider; is it worth it to force children to go to school if the end result is that they will 1) Keep everyone else’s children from learning; 2) have students arrested for minor infractions; or 3) observe in retrospect how empires (a.k.a. the United States) decline? In any of the above scenarios; as the report shows; the Black and Brown people of America will be criminalized, blamed and abandoned in model that support forced education. The time has come for us to draw a line in the sand… are we for or against public schools putting out children who are not prepared to learn at the levels dictated by the State for various reasons or are we the preparing ourselves to be the safe room that those children run to when all hell breaks loose? ?

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Posted by watdi33 on 11/19/2014 at 10:02 PM

Re: “City schools' suspensions challenged

If you are not in the RCSD schools environment you won't see the reality. If you just visit the "elite schools" that are Magnet ones having the underground privilege to choose their students you won't see the real problems planted here. When these students go into society they are going to be the problems and the law is not going to stop sending them to prison for big crimes. Like the student who shoot Officer DiPonzio. Warnings came in elementary but nobody listen to the teacher's complainings.Then having a sixth grader with an electronic device on his ankle for monitoring him as a juvenile offender. But it was ignore everything he could did bullying others. Suspensions looks bad to the eyes of some people but the district needs to put in place serious consequences to the students that do wrong. Minor infractions for some people seems normal and innocent. But when things scale to the point like other states shootings everyone is surprised why that happened. But in reality nobody wants to face the reality of the problems. Our society took the responsibility from the parents and now sadly many parents are not taking responsibility to raise their children as good and productive citizens of this country. Stop giving everything to them. Make them accountable for their own children. They brought into this World now take responsibility.

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Posted by EYEHAWKQUEEN on 11/19/2014 at 9:13 PM

Re: “City schools' suspensions challenged

MIchael, Gottasayit, kamakazee78... it would seem as if you folks really know what you are talking about so I would ask... tell us what should be done to really change the RCSD and its policies with suspensions ?

I offered one suggestion of an in-school suspension program with more individual monitoring to get the home work done during the day instead of throwing the student out of school. And, for the student (s) to get ahead of the education needed to graduate, on time, in 12 years ,at the age of 17 or 18 years of age through in-school suspensions.

WHAT SHOULD WE DO IN YOUR OPINION to make things work ?

Thank you.

Please...we already know that Mayoral Control, more money thrown at the problems, and common core do not seem to be the answers.

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Posted by crm135790 on 11/19/2014 at 9:02 PM

Re: “Stealing Susan B.?

Thank you Christine. Some people don't understand that. I do. I have nothing else to add to the reply I have already given.

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Posted by sean on 11/19/2014 at 6:31 PM

Re: “Stealing Susan B.?

Reminder: We love to hear from you, but please do not attack each other. You'll find yourself edited or deleted. And who wants to deal with that kind of rejection?

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Posted by Christine Carrie Fien on 11/19/2014 at 5:11 PM

Re: “Human toll of school suspensions is devastating

Tim, you seem to be very reluctant to deals with the stats presented in the report and the impact of trouble making students on the ability of others to get an education. For example, the report said that less than 5% of students account for 73% of the suspensions. The remaining ones do not represent an epidemic of suspensions. Want to bet that those 5% represent more than 73% of the out of school days?

What do those 5% mean? Well, that is an average of one in every class. One person that takes the teacher's full time attention that the other 95% deserve to receive. At a school like East High, if it is average, it means 100 of the troubled students. And a single person is supposed to deal with that at the high school?

Finally, the study poorly defined the 88% of minor incidents, since it also said that 88% were non violent infractions, as thugh non violent means insignificant. Selling drugs and theft are non violent. Are they minor? In the study, the referenced minor infractions all involved females. Not a single example for males. And no data was presented to identify differences I suspensions by sex.

You really need to do a better job presenting the background and not simply whine.

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Posted by Michael on 11/19/2014 at 5:06 PM

Re: “Human toll of school suspensions is devastating

And the racial angle is ridiculous. Seriously talk to teachers, and students. You are getting one view. This is not journalism. This is a PR stunt. School safety is at stake here. This is not the time to be playing politics and mimicking the nonsense that is playing around in this country.

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Posted by kamakazee78 on 11/19/2014 at 4:47 PM

Re: “Human toll of school suspensions is devastating

"Tugging on a teacher" ? How about assaulting staff and students? City, did you drink the kool-ade?

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Posted by kamakazee78 on 11/19/2014 at 4:43 PM

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