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Re: “Lessons for Rochester from Raleigh

I have one child who spent k-12, one starting his senior year, and one going in to 5th grade, all in Raleigh.
While the county is seemingly too large for all the schools to be together, it does have advantages. Bill was right about the biggest advantage for us being the whole county shares the bill, yet, it really sucks when the outlying areas have to close for ice when we didn't get any. The magnet program was designed to encourage higher socio-economic families to attend inner city schools. Being a huge county means we have lots of magnet programs, even If it means longer bus rides. I can also tell you, firsthand, that bussing doesn't always,mean longer bus rides. My older two were bussed, but there were only 3 stops; their trip was about 30 minutes. I have friends whose kids go to more neighborhood schools, who make stops every 50-100 feet; the average bus ride is 45-60 minutes.
Hopefully the idiotic powers that were are done trying to argue to end bussing, and essentially re-segregate schools. I would have thought about pulling them out immediately! I will not go back to that era with my kids. Schools with mostly poor kids don't get teachers or supplies. I applauded Del Burns for his statement. The quote from the parent who asked his kid of his friend was white or black, but didn't want them to see skin color is stupid. Why would he ask if didn't want the kid to see skin color. I have never asked any of my boys what color theor friend was!
I'm sorry that Steve's sister has had an awful experience. We've had 2 horrible teachers, but both retired. We've also been super lucky that the boys only went to 1 school each at each level (elementary, middle, high). My oldest 2 at the largest high school in the county (not Garner), and with no trailers. As a matter of fact, none of my children have gone to a school with temporary trailers.
Raleigh's school system's issues have always been growing too fast, and an inability by leaders to foresee what that would mean.

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Posted by Kimberlee Bennett Champitto on 07/23/2014 at 8:15 PM

Re: “Lessons for Rochester from Raleigh

No place in NC is an example of something to mimic, especially the schools. NC has some of the lowest paid, least happy teachers in the nation. The students also score in the lowest percentile in the nation. Just meet a NC native, It is few and far between that you meet one of above average intelligence. NC is a poor example for your story. Besides the elderly that retire, 99% of the people that leave NY for NC are the dregs of our economy. They are hardly a loss.

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Posted by MrRochester on 07/23/2014 at 6:25 PM

Re: “The battle over bar hours

Rochester is a JOKE !!!!

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Posted by zzzzzzzzzz on 07/23/2014 at 6:17 PM

Re: “Feedback 7/9

This would be a great investment and at a minimum a consistent Fast Bus System or LRT/Streetcar system connecting, RIT, U of R, and downtown would have a great benefit to this community and likely would see the highest usage. Parking is expensive and limited at both rapidly growing universities, and why not have a means to connect them to downtown and use our city as a place to collaborate and innovate.

Posted by John on 07/23/2014 at 4:13 PM

Re: “Mayor Warren releases statement on Blossom South and undocumented children

This is wonderful! Thank you Mayor Warren and Mr. Segal for you idea! These children need our help. It is not safe for them to return home now. I support opening our community to as many of these kids as we can. We have a lot of resources to share and many kind people to help. Rochester is a great place for these kids to stay while their future is in limbo.

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Posted by Amanda on 07/23/2014 at 3:00 PM

Re: “The battle over bar hours

Same thing occurring off East Ave with two clubs that pay city property taxes without any of their children in the school district. However, there have been many police calls to the establishments ( what is the bill for those services ? ) How do we balance service costs, crime and business owners trying to make a living in a neighborhood. More security at the owners cost or more police calls to the locations ? What is fair and what is not fair for all parties involved ? Well...the court said no and upheld the club owners rights ,in a legal court of law, for this circumstance, at all taxpayers expense. Now we move on to East Ave. and will see what happens next in the legal courts.

Posted by crm135790 on 07/23/2014 at 12:51 PM

Re: “Lessons for Rochester from Raleigh

Mark, I understand your frustration with the city school system and its failing students. What Raleigh seems to have done is create an environment which changes the mathematical distribution of families by creating magnet schools - thus scores/number of graduates improves. That would be expected. But it does not solve the underlying problem, it only dissolves it a bit. If we don't develop a plan to educate both child and parent from the poor neighborhood, they who are poorly educated will continue to exists. It is the lack of respect for education in our city homes which creates an environment for failure. If a parent failed in school, and has no use for that facility, you can't get the kid there. If a parent can't read, he or she can't help a kid to learn to read, if they can't do math, they can't help their child do math. If the parent never developed a good value system and ethics, they can't teach/re-enforce a good attitude in their kids. I have to laugh at the State, District and U of R solution to the East High problem. They are attacking a aspect of the facility, the teaching faculty, which will not improve the student outcome. Not one parent of a failing student will be affected by this new approach and thus the real problem related to the failure of students at East will not be solved. Lastly, more money in the wrong place also solves no problems, a beautiful well equipped facility with a teaching staff with a list of suffixes after their names cannot fix a problem which they have no contact with, parents...... Not sure what you really learned in Raleigh, but until we figure out how to change the culture of the city family, nothing can be accomplished in the classroom.

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Posted by Bill Brown on 07/23/2014 at 12:51 PM

Re: “Mayor Warren releases statement on Blossom South and undocumented children

The type of "crisis" is irrelevant. US government is in a better position financially and logistically to deal with crises, no matter what they are. They shouldn't shove it down to the state or local governments to deal with it. Maybe the UN come here and address this "refugee crisis"?

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Posted by Bart on 07/23/2014 at 11:08 AM

Re: “Lessons for Rochester from Raleigh

Schools in Raleigh are horrible. My sister has 3 kids in the school system, and it is failing them spectacularly. The teachers are severely underpaid, and that is clearly evident in their performance. She regrets her decision to move down there and raise her kids. Combining the whole county under one school district has been a logistical nightmare. Children are forced to change schools due to over crowding all the time, and rarely get to be around kids for long enough to form lasting friendships. School taxes are county wide, so people in poor rural areas are subsidizing the education of poor urban kids. Here that would mean if Irondequoit needed a new pool, people in Wheatland would be helping to pay for it. Also, since the whole county is under one district, if one school shuts down for bad weather, every school in the county shuts down. Here that would mean if there is too much snow in Hamlin, Pittsford-Mendon would have to close too.

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Posted by Steve on 07/23/2014 at 9:54 AM

Re: “Mayor Warren releases statement on Blossom South and undocumented children

It is a refugee crisis not necessarily an immigration crisis in my opinion.

Craig R Moffitt

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Posted by crm135790 on 07/23/2014 at 8:57 AM

Re: “Mayor Warren releases statement on Blossom South and undocumented children

"As long as the County of Monroe and the City of Rochester equally share any costs above and beyond what the Federal Gov't does not cover.."
No way. Rochester and Monroe County should foot the bill for ANY costs for this. It is a federal government-caused crisis that is theirs to fund and fix. It is not NY States' problem either. These children all need to be sent home ASAP.

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Posted by Bart on 07/23/2014 at 7:30 AM

Re: “The riots' aftermath: 50 years and counting

In response to last week's article on the 1964 riots, I'd like to pick up and run with the idea of countywide magnet schools. I happen to have experience as a founding administrator of a district sponsored charter school in AZ and have raised over $2 million in grants for schools during the course of my career. I would like to pull together a planning committee of interested individuals, government officials, businesses, churches, and community organizations. My idea would be to pen a school geared at helping students gain entrance to highly-selective colleges. This I believe reaches across race and class as tier one schools operate need=blind admissions and are accessible to all students who demonstrate ability regardless of demographics. Contact me if you would be interested in attending an information session to discuss working together. Let's stop talking about the segregation in our community and DO something about it!…

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Posted by Holly M. Asposto on 07/23/2014 at 3:59 AM

Re: “Mayor Warren releases statement on Blossom South and undocumented children

As long as the County of Monroe and the City of Rochester equally share any costs above and beyond what the Federal Gov't does not cover, if any, I wholly support the efforts of The City of Rochester to further study and determine the entire feasibility of such an effort to protect children, women and teenagers, fleeing illegally from crime, oppression by a Govt', or Drug Cartel Violence, that may be housed in the near future, on a temporary basis only, in our City and County of Monroe.

Craig R. Moffitt

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Posted by crm135790 on 07/22/2014 at 10:40 PM

Re: “Feedback 7/16

There are two different options here. The wrong option was chosen. This option called for government provided training programs. Mrs. Warren also has called for a raise in the minimum wage.

The capitalist option costs the taxpayer zero dollars and yet provides real on the job training and responsibility, and the person gets paid to learn and feel dignity. Stop messing with the entry level wages and let people at least get a start.

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Posted by johnny on 07/22/2014 at 12:59 PM

Re: “Geva to add downtown housing for actors

More people downtown 24/7. Very cool. Plus, having signed leases will help the developer get financing and expedite the project.

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Posted by johnny on 07/22/2014 at 12:49 PM

Re: “Riots still haunt Rochester

The last time I worked with Bob Duffy and Wade Norwood was in 1993 about problems in my neighborhood ( N. Goodman and Bay ). Thank Gos that Wade and Bob helped me. At the time,there were 1000 abandoned properties. To date, there are 2400 abandoned properties in the City of Rochester Limits and counting. Equal ground in jobs , education, housing and more are some of the answers. However, living a moral life is the final answer.

Craig R. Moffitt

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Posted by crm135790 on 07/21/2014 at 1:32 PM

Re: “Feedback 7/16

Questions Mayor Warren

What type of jobs are available for individuals with a very low academic level ?

If you say they need training, what type of training ,and what jobs will be available to them with this training ?

What has been the success rate of labor training, and employment in construction ,building, and other work areas ?

What jobs will be available for the forty _ nine percent school dropout rate?

How many companies have you spoken with about hiring low academic level employs ?



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Posted by Paul on 07/21/2014 at 10:39 AM

Re: “Riots still haunt Rochester

" To build or renovate housing costs money. If people can't afford it, subsidies are needed to build it or to rent it, right? Whether the federal, state or local taxpayers get the bill, it's still subsidized. If the population of the city has dropped from 300,000 to 210,000 there should be plenty of housing around ". ( There is plenty of housing in Rochester but it is abandoned; beyond repair; or stripped of its valued materials or a crack drug house ). So what do we do ? What is your plan ? Taking care of your family is good and I applaud that in every way. But the problems are larger and greater than just " your family". When all of us in Rochester and Monroe County wake up to those facts then it will be even a great place to live work and raise children of any race or color. You did not answer the question and have a plan for the $8.99 per assessed value per parcel , of your propeerty,of your money that the County of Monroe is already giving to COMIDA and LDC's ?

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Posted by crm135790 on 07/21/2014 at 8:50 AM

Re: “Riots still haunt Rochester

crm: To build or renovate housing costs money. If people can't afford it, subsidies are needed to build it or to rent it, right? Whether the federal, state or local taxpayers get the bill, it's still subsidized. If the population of the city has dropped from 300,000 to 210,000 there should be plenty of housing around. No, I don't have a plan to get people to move back into the city. I figure that taking care of myself and my family is my priority and not being a burden to anyone is enough for me. I'm tired of the guilt trip being laid on people who work hard, pay their (exorbitant) taxes and try to be left alone.

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Posted by fuming on 07/21/2014 at 8:33 AM

Re: “Riots still haunt Rochester

Dear Fuming, to paraphrase again

"Now in the suburbs but used to live in an apartment in the city. Eventually, ( some people, that worked hard, that had an education and good parenting ), were able to buy a home in a modest suburb because , I chose ;and, wanted to own a home to have more space and a yard ( There are homes in the CITY with big yards). After many years we’re close to paying off the mortgage. So it bothers me that one of the solutions suggested for the problem of poverty is to build low-cost subsidized housing in the suburbs.

( PEOPLE are less fortunate in the County too ) Really? How does it help the problem of poverty by spreading it out around the county? It doesn’t address the problem at all. And if transportation to jobs is also a problem for the poor, doesn’t it make that harder if they’re dispersed? ( We do not have enough population to have a good mass transit system similar to the LIGHT Rail in Minnesota ). Does that mean they will need access to low-cost cars in addition to housing? ( We have to bring population back to Rochester Monroe County in some ways...what is your plan ? ).

No one ever said subsidized housing... the point was affordable housing. People in homes, that take care of homes, makes good. common sense. Over the last 20 years without Kodak or Xerox there has been a mass exodus to other states and to Monroe County. Now the population in the City is about 210,000 down from 300,000. The City and the County have programs for businesses such as COMIDA and LDC's. WITHOUT HOUSING,JOBS and EDUCATION we have NOTHING. THE County is up to about 900.000 residents. The County and the CITY are one together...and the sooner both start working together the better off all will be. What is Monroe County doing about kicking in some money for a Mass Transit System ? At , I may add $8.99 per thousand at assessed roles per parcel ?

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Posted by crm135790 on 07/21/2014 at 8:07 AM

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