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Re: “White wants a Rochester 'for us, by us'

His proposal of giving jobs to students in the summer and paying them for going to school is intriguing and leads to the questions: Who's going to pay for it all? The city that can barely keep itself afloat? The school district that wastes money like it's water? His heart is in the right place but you need to use your head to run a city.

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Posted by steve on 10/27/2013 at 4:07 PM

Re: “White wants a Rochester 'for us, by us'

Martin,

We may never agree on this but lets take a look at just what you say. The small investment you refer to is Midtown town and it comes with $8.7 million of city money and $6 million of state money. There is the Sibley building which we have already give $1 million to build a police station, and a $3.1 million loan. They are also seeking long term tax breaks and millions more in loans/ grants to rehab this building. No study shows the need for a new downtown hotel and presently we have a surplus of rooms so the Hilton does not make economic sense and the Inner loop fill is is $7 million more of our money with $17.7 million from the federal government. When this is completed what will we have 300 or so more apartments downtown, 14 acres of shovel ready space no one is wants, 2.5 million square feet of vacant commercial space and we will be more than $41 million poorer. Will poverty be decreased? Will the many underemployed have better careers? Will crime be lower? Downtown will look nicer but will it be better? If you think there will be taxes out of this I ask you to look at 454 Westfall Rd an apartment complex which is worth $4.1 million and yet pays $1268 in taxes even though this building was built in 1972. It seems these tax breaks never expire as in 20 years these projects will need something done which will justify extending the tax breaks. My problem is I look at this as an investment and I see neither a monetary return nor a public benefit return so I see no reason to spend this money trying to recreate a downtown which is gone.

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Posted by Alex White on 10/27/2013 at 1:50 PM

Re: “ENDORSEMENT: Still the best candidate for mayor: Tom Richards

Sorry, City, but this endorsement is a smack in the face to all the voters who chose Lovely Warren. Liberals (and I am one) are often considered intellectual elitists--this is elitism at its finest. Who are you to decide that their votes don't count?

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Posted by Kathryn Quinn Thomas on 10/27/2013 at 11:17 AM

Re: “Meet your Greens

Ben Lewis....Your comments about White and city council mean you are forever resigned to the staus quo and that is sad. I always believe something better than what we currently have is possible but only if we stop voting the way we always vote. I also believe that if elected officials have good ideas that the people like and support everyone else...city council...would need to follow the voice of the people.

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Posted by Tom Janowski on 10/27/2013 at 9:07 AM

Re: “ENDORSEMENT: Still the best candidate for mayor: Tom Richards

What part of this statement did City Newspaper not understand...?

"I am announcing today that I am ending my campaign for reelection. This is exclusively a personal decision driven by personal circumstances. My family has been dealing for some time with a difficult health challenge for one of our members that has recently evolved to the point where continuing my campaign is no longer appropriate.

. I am not sure that I have always made the correct decision, but I believe that I am doing so this time.

"I believe that my announcement today will, and should mean that Lovely Warren will be elected our next Mayor. I intend to work to make that occur successfully and I urge everyone to do so as well. After the election, my administration will work to assist in the transition. I believe that this is in the best interest of our city.”

- Mayor Thomas Richards, Sept. 18, 2013

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Posted by Ben Lewis on 10/27/2013 at 5:38 AM

Re: “Meet your Greens

Tom Janowski - Experience and ideas (preferably good ideas) ARE important. But in Rochester city politcs so is a working relationship between the mayor and city council (even though in past years the council has done little except rubber stamp the hair-brained schemes of Johnson, Duffy and Richards).

If by divine intervention White were elected mayor he would still have no personal or political relationship with the council nor, as an outsider, would the council see any reason to cooperate with someone with no Democratic party power behind him. Oh yeah, there is that old line about working for the benefit of the people, but that clearly comes in a distant second to party loyalty in this town.

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Posted by Ben Lewis on 10/26/2013 at 6:56 PM

Re: “Meet your Greens

the city is doomed under these failed leaders.

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Posted by get real on 10/26/2013 at 2:20 PM

Re: “Meet your Greens

There is an ad on TV that says if you do the same old, same old, you're going to get the same old, same old. We have been getting the same old, same old for too long. It is time for change, for new ideas. Overthrow the dominant Paradigm! We need change to improve our City! City Newspaper has failed in that they limit their openness to change. Choosing a person who has stated that has said they are not running for as the ideal candidate is absurd.

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Posted by Clarissa Rising on 10/26/2013 at 11:21 AM

Re: “Meet your Greens

Experience is not a magical quality that makes one candidate great. Lack of experience does not mean a candidate is unworthy of a vote. Ideas and fresh thinking are important too.

Many thought Bill Johnson was an experinced leader but he is the one who brought the disasterous fast ferry to Rochester. Experience didn't seem to help in that situation.

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Posted by Tom Janowski on 10/26/2013 at 7:00 AM

Re: “ENDORSEMENT: Vote no on casinos

OK, the casino proposition has gotten some play in the media (especially the gov and lej's shenanigans), the prop on the Adirondack land swap has been mentioned in the D&C, and I've recieved a flyer in the mail about the one that eliminates the mandatory retirement age for judges, but what are the other three?

Counting on City to enlighten me....

--Greg Toth

Posted by Greg Toth on 10/25/2013 at 2:44 PM

Re: “ENDORSEMENT: Still the best candidate for mayor: Tom Richards

I am disappointed in this article. Endorsing somebody who has dropped out of the race is counterproductive. Warren is the only candidate with definitive policies available to the public. (lovelyformayor.com/issues has links to PDFs I believe.) And this article references her countering RCSD's efforts. Clearly this newspaper failed to review the stats on our beloved district. Lol

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Posted by Tone Williams on 10/25/2013 at 2:27 PM

Re: “Meet your Greens

City Newspapers does not endorse Green Party Candidates after they write good things about us. They say City Council has more experience but they don't listen to the residents of the city and they vote 9-0 on mostly every proposal made by the Mayor. At City Council meetings they have already made their decisions before the concerned citizens get their opportunity to express their concerns. Twenty minutes after they listen to the citizens they make their vote without any discussion or any concern for the taxpayers.

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Posted by Concerned Citizen on 10/25/2013 at 10:13 AM

Re: “Meet your Greens

rebeccarafferty - All that you say about Emily Good may be true. But that begs the question. Do you believe that she's qualified to be Monroe County sheriff?

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Posted by Ben Lewis on 10/25/2013 at 8:11 AM

Re: “Meet your Greens

Third parties in ths country traditionally fail to achieve traction until the public realizes that some national calamity is in the offing which the major parties can not or will not address.. We have the requisite calamities. And neither the Dems nor the Repubs are willing to addtess them. But the American public as a whole has yet to realize what's going on.

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Posted by Ben Lewis on 10/25/2013 at 8:06 AM

Re: “ENDORSEMENT: Still the best candidate for mayor: Tom Richards

What the heck....I will step out on a limb with an early endorsement for President I. 2016....FDR!

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Posted by Tom Janowski on 10/25/2013 at 6:08 AM

Re: “Meet your Greens

The Greens have been activists fighting for a wide variety of environmental issues including devastating climate change , fracking and corporate contributions including to gas and oil companies. The Green Party has a long history of activism prior to directing efforts towards obtaining political party status. To imply that they are somehow not against climate change is absurd. One thing for sure is that they rejected was the move by the Sierra Club to contribute $26m supporting shale based gas fracking. Greens have a fundamental principle NO CORPORATE MONIES. That is where the rubber hits the road ,as they say. Bonnie Cannan

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Posted by Harry Davis on 10/24/2013 at 10:39 AM

Re: “White wants a Rochester 'for us, by us'

I had a bit of a debate about downtown development economics with Alex on Facebook (we don't know each other) and I was shocked at his ignorance regarding development and taxation issues. He has a simplistic and naive viewpoint based on extremely shallow evidence of supposed 'gifts' to developers by the city. This totally ignores the tax and socio-economic implications of rebuilding the center city. For small investments like selling gutted buildings for a few dollars, the city gets a totally revitalized center city: Midtown, Sibley's, the new Main St Hilton, the Morgan project on the river, the Inner Loop fill...all of these projects are funded and underway. So why critique what are a series of huge wins for Rochester based on strategic investments by the City?

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Posted by Martin Edic on 10/24/2013 at 10:18 AM

Re: “Meet your Greens

Frank your right climate change is a real problem for the future and that is why, as you know, I have included the following items in my platform:
· Include renewable energy systems in the building modernization plan for Schools – This will help save the City School District money through reduced energy costs. It will also decrease the carbon footprint of the city and help keep our air healthy and clean.

· Switch the city’s fleet of vehicle to renewable energy – The increase in both popularity and effectiveness of alternative energy vehicles has made it practical to save the city money and keep our environment clean through the use of electric vehicles. In conjunction with a public utility and renewable energy at the schools, this will greatly reduce the operation costs of our fleet.

· Provide a property tax credit for installation of clean renewable energy systems.

· Push for home pick up of electronics at least monthly.

· Explore energy generation through wind turbines at Durand Eastman Park, low flow turbines on the Genesee River, energy transference walk ways, and solar panels on city buildings.

· Make tree lined streets a priority – Whenever the city removes a tree they need to replace it and make trees a mandatory part of all street redevelopments projects.

As well as have had a press conference about bicycling and talked about light rail.

Ideas like this will greatly reduce our carbon footprint, prepare our city for a changing future, and reduce costs for everyone.

Thanks for bringing this up again.
Alex White

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Posted by Alex White on 10/24/2013 at 9:30 AM

Re: “ENDORSEMENT: Still the best candidate for mayor: Tom Richards

How come no one here is stating the obvious? Tom Richards has proven himself to be our area's finest political leader since Tom Ryan (who was under-appreciated then, we might recall). He has also been, by far, the most unifying leader we have seen in a long, long time (another under-appreciated quality Mayor Richards has). He was been so low key about this that it escapes immediate observation.

Lovely Warren will be our next mayor. I pray she governs with maturity and grace, and consults with Mr. Richards. I doubt if he'll ever steer her wrong.

There are many worthy points on the comments here, but upon re-reading, Ms. Towler makes an awful lot of essential points. And at the very least Mayor Richards' deserves the tribute she has paid him.

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Posted by Troll Whisperer on 10/23/2013 at 10:39 PM

Re: “Meet your Greens

I think it's interesting that you say, "conventional wisdom casts third parties such as the Greens as agitators who exist on the political fringe..." By "conventional wisdom" I assume you mean to take the Republican-Democratic Party (singular) stance of "you get to _choose_ between Kang and Kodos" and give it some kind of aw-shucks homespun spin. It is not "conventional wisdom" at all, but a deception that has been parlayed iteratively for the past 60 years of politics.

And when you speak of "the media" and how it "hasn't paid a lot of attention to their campaigns" or how it has excluded Green Party candidates from debates, it sounds like you're referring to an outside third-party. I don't know if you were aware, but The City is part of said "media" and just as culpable.

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Posted by Jason Olshefsky on 10/23/2013 at 7:58 PM

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