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Re: “East's problems mirror an unstable district

Ms Remis, the MOUs are what make things flexible based on school need. I cannot speak to whether teachers like the LC or not. I can say that your original post intimated that the contract was the impediment to change. Now in your response to Mark and me, you acknowledge that it has been the catalyst of MOUs. All of which are public documents. FOIL them if you like!
What concessions do you advocate for? Can you please name them? How would those concessions make partners more willing to step up? Please create a logical trail for readers to follow instead of generalizations. We need ideas, what are yours?
What other reasons can one imagine for partners not stepping up?

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Posted by MichaelO on 03/24/2014 at 9:11 AM

Re: “East's problems mirror an unstable district

Mark & MichaelO- My point was that outside partners have not been knocking down the door to work with RCSD. Isn't it time we asked why?

While I can appreciate why teachers like the concept of the Living Contract, the other side of the story is that provision is responsible for an ever-expanding scope of bargaining in Rochester. LC is not just in play at the school level, it's also at the district level and results in an almost 24/7/365 state of bargaining. The results of which are not part of the contract proper, but a mountain of MOUs the public never sees.

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Posted by Carrie Remis on 03/24/2014 at 8:59 AM

Re: “Our anonymous comments

I find it troubling that someone would think of poverty as a shameful condition. A super rich CEO escaping a nosediving company with a golden parachute is someone I would expect to be wanting to hide under a rock.

Furthermore, victims that need real help are not going to be able to get it by going online with their story while remaining anonymous. They should be emboldened enough to contact the police or some other agency with all the information, INCLUDING their name.

I am concerned that some people are erroneously assuming that the anonymous contributors are downtrodden in some way. I suspect that it's the opposite that is true. Wouldn't it be more appropriate for someone with a well-known name to use a psyeudonym.

I think the conversation on unions would have been badly one-sided without the psyeudonym using regulars. I do understand how unfair it seems for one side to be able to speak with impunity while the others always must consider their reputation.

This is a complicated and important issue. It would be wise to spend more time on it.

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Posted by Mike Bruton on 03/24/2014 at 1:42 AM

Re: “Rochester deputy mayor charged with DWI

Correction, when I wrote "I don't see many people in this thread condemning Lovely Warren for having Mr. Redon on his staff." it obviously should have said "on her staff", not "on his staff".

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Posted by Rochester Musician on 03/23/2014 at 10:14 PM

Re: “East's problems mirror an unstable district

I graduated from east in 05 and its true it was hard... but I had parents that cared and were there for me... maybe rcsd should make more parents accountable for there child's education.My youngest sister is currently at east and she is supposed to graduate next year and my sister is a honor students someone explain what is going to happen with the students like my little sister? The problem here isn't the school its the students that don't want to go to school and put the effort kiss like my lil sister does people think about it.. you shift these kids that don't want to go to school to other school then those school are going to end up like east

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Posted by Nessa Laboy on 03/23/2014 at 9:50 PM

Re: “Rochester deputy mayor charged with DWI

"So now, with all anger and upset, we condemn Lovely Warren for two people she kept on ? "

I don't see many people in this thread condemning Lovely Warren for having Mr. Redon on his staff. I certainly didn't, nor did the majority of comments. Any criticisms have been how she's handling the situation once Mr. Redon had his DWI incident. And not all the commenters are even critical of that aspect.

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Posted by Rochester Musician on 03/23/2014 at 8:34 PM

Re: “Rochester deputy mayor charged with DWI

Sorry all, Redon was a Richards appointment. So, by the way, was Spencer Ash. So now, with all anger and upset, we condemn Lovely Warren for two people she kept on ?

OMG, how stupidly racist is this?

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Posted by clint on 03/23/2014 at 8:02 PM

Re: “East's problems mirror an unstable district

What about giving the school financial resources to provide adequate, updated materials needed for students? I graduated from East in '97. I had to get into honors classes to get teachers who wanted to teach and students who wanted to learn. I had classes with not enough desks, dilapidated class materials, outdated computers. Every time I read about state funding it always goes to suburban schools. If more money was allocated to the schools directly and not to the RCSD administration, I think more can be accomplished.

Consider the schools physical appearance. It looks like a prison. It looks like a place the city and neighborhood expect students to end up. The city provides unattractive environments of course you will create low student morale and decrease incentive to learn.

Also, many students in the city only know a life of instant gratification. Many students do not know what it means to work for a reward and the school offers few incentives to work towards a longer, rewarding education. There needs to be more encouragenent about where an education will lead students and how it will improve their life. The few teachers who try work effortlessly to convince students there is a better life outside of Rochester or even the ghetto.

Another fact, students are told to not go into local businesses during school hours because a few bad apples have ruined the schools reputation for all. Right away they are being told no one wants them around, they are treated as worthless people so why should the students come to school?

Instead of giving up on the school give it financial resources for updated, technologically current tools, incentives and reasons to achieve higher education, a physically attractive place to learn and just maybe student attendance will increase and teacher morale will improve.

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Posted by Wendy Moon on 03/23/2014 at 6:43 PM

Re: “Our anonymous comments

Often, the people who need to remain anonymous are the ones we need to hear from most. For example, a person who is mentally ill and has great insight into the mental health system, but doesn't want their workplace to know of their illness. Or someone who works in a political office, but doesn't want to jeopardize their job. Or someone who was a former addict, or who was in an abusive relationship, or who live s in poverty. It's not who said it that's important, it's what's being said. If we are only to hear only from the people who sign their name, then we are potentially shutting out voices that need to be heard. To ignore them is akin to censorship, and is the very opposite of what the internet is all about.

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Posted by Amy Bown on 03/23/2014 at 2:53 PM

Re: ““RuPaul’s Drag Race” Season 6, Episode 4: “SHADE! The Rusical”

I can't wait to once again join the gaggle of geeks tomorrow night! I love gaggling up.

Posted by Jerome James O'Neill on 03/23/2014 at 12:10 PM

Re: “Our anonymous comments

I am always drawn toward comment sections to know what people are thinking and to read other points of view. Just as often I am repulsed by them when comments descend into personal attacks or wild flights of illogic or ideologue.

But experience has shown me that neither helpful discussion, nor useless rant and drivel are exclusive to either the anonymous or to the public contributor.

Therefore, and for the added reason that contributors can fear retribution, job threat, etc., I accept the annoyances (or worse) that allowing anonymous commenters poses, in trade for the great value that anonymous contributors sometimes add.

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Posted by Michael Brisson on 03/23/2014 at 10:36 AM

Re: “East's problems mirror an unstable district

How about making parents more accountable for their children's education? I would love to know the percentage of parents in the city who actually help with their children's homework and actually read to them at night. The lack of parent involvement in the RCSD is laughable. The only time parents actually show up to my school is if there is free food. I find it absolutely appalling that the state is giving the RCSD one month to find a way to successfully restructure East High School. Please show me a school that is state run that has actually been successful.

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Posted by Lynann Marie on 03/23/2014 at 10:22 AM

Re: “Can the school board, superintendent, and community work together?

"Gotta Say It," IT CAN'T POSSIBLY BE SAID ANY BETTER THAN THIS (BELOW):
"...this situation is not normal. Vargas comes across like a deer looking into the headlights and the board needs to either come right out and tell the public what they want him to do or they need to let him go. The disconnect is palpable and although the board members feel an allegiance to him because they hired him, the schools and the community can't be left in the dark any longer." AMEN!!!

HERE'S WHAT HAS HAPPENED SO FAR:

On the afternoon of 3/17/14, a notice was sent out announcing that Board President Van White was convening a special meeting of the full Board, the next day, (3/18/14) --- to discuss recommendations for change and improvement in the RCSD.
The Recommendations (see the following link:

http://www.scribd.com/doc/210683191/Recomm… ) had been developed by four Committees, which Commissioner White had convened at the end of January 2014. Some parents who had served on the Committees complained about the short notice regarding the 3/18 meeting. In response to the complaints --- after the meeting ended (the same night) --- Commissioner White sent out the explanation below. Also, see below --- my response to his explanation:


from: Van White van.white@thelegalbrief.com

All:

Tonight's meeting was scheduled so that the Board could have an opportunity to discuss (for the first time as a group) the recommendations of the special committees in the context of our discussions regarding the 2014-2015 budget. (This of course followed two town meetings and numerous special committee meetings.)

I instructed staff to notify special committee members because I thought you might want to be at that meeting to hear the board's initial thoughts to your recommendations and presentations which you all made last week.

Please remember my goal all along was integrate the ideas of the special committees into the budget talks. Tonight was just the beginning of that process.

You all will have at least two opportunities, in the context of our budget process, to articulate your support for the ideas of the special committees. There are Public forums on the budget scheduled to take place on April 1 and 3 at 6:00 pm.

I would encourage you all to attend those public speaking forums to communicate your support for the recommendations of the special committees or any other budgetary concerns or ideas you may have.

For those of you who attended tonight's meeting, some of those conversations have already begun. For example, during a break in tonight's agenda, I witnessed members of the special committees already engaging a board member in conversation regarding the ideas which they supported.

What was also clear tonight was that Board members, understandably, have questions regarding some of the proposals which must be answered before they could be expected to support some of these ideas. I hope you all reach out to board members directly and at the take advantage of the two public budget forums and share your insights and views.

Indeed your work on behalf of this community is far from over. On this I hope we can agree. Thanks again!!!!!

Van
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MY RESPONSE:

Howard Eagle howard.eagle90@gmail.com

Dear Commissioner White,

With regard to your latter correspondence, thank you for the explanation, but I believe all who are included, understood (prior to your explanation) what the purpose of last night's meeting was. A major point regarding my initial correspondence was / is, as noted by Ms. Quick Coleman --- objection to "the infamous last minute invites and notices set forth by this district."

As you know, our "recommendations and presentations [were] made" on March 4, 2014, as opposed to "last week." At the time of our March 4th presentations, you announced that a "meeting [would be] scheduled so that the Board could have an opportunity to discuss (for the first time as a group) the recommendations of the special committees in the context of [your] discussions regarding the 2014-2015 budget." However, on March 4th, you did not know the date that the meeting, which took place last night, would occur. THE MAJOR POINT WAS / IS THAT, PRIOR TO THE AFTERNOON OF MARCH 17TH (THE DAY BEFORE LAST NIGHT'S MEETING, AND 12 DAYS AFTER OUR MARCH 4TH PRESENTATIONS) WE HAD NOT RECEIVED ANY COMMUNICATION CONCERNING LAST NIGHT'S MEETING. As you also know, Ms. Quick Coleman and I, along with others listed here, served on the Special Committee On Parent Engagement. I believe all would agree that the situation outlined above represents a classic example of that which Ms. Quick Coleman accurately described as "the infamous last minute invites and notices set forth by this district." IT REPRESENTS A SERIOUS, BASIC, FUNDAMENTAL, ISSUE AND PROBLEM, WHICH NEEDS TO BE REMEDIED. It also represents an issue, which has helped convince many RCSD parents that the Board and Administration are not really serious and / or sincere about desiring and welcoming widespread, ongoing, consistent, parent engagement. From my perspective, it is nearly impossible to believe that, if a basic, fundamental issue, such as timely notification can't be resolved --- that the Board would give serious consideration to Recommendations, which the Parent Engagement Committee and other Special Committees generated, especially those of a SYSTEMIC nature.

I am in total agreement that: "What was also clear was that Board members, understandably, have questions regarding some of the proposals, which must be answered before they could be expected to support some of these ideas." However, your suggested "solution" regarding this critically important issue is not realistic, nor logical, i.e., INDIVIDUALS who served on the Special Committees "reaching out to board members directly." The truth of the matter is that, especially as it relates to particular Recommendations, which are SYSTEMIC in nature, Committee members have not had adequate time, nor opportunities to fully deliberate and come to clear, consensus relative to details. Remember, this work was done over a one-month time period, which only included three or four meetings. So the recommendations, again, especially those that are SYSTEMIC in nature, ONLY represent broad agreements among Committee members. A prime example of this was clear last night (even in the initial Board discussion) regarding the Recommendation to develop an Office of Social Justice. Clearly the Committee, which advanced that particular Recommendation has not had adequate time and / or opportunity to spell out details of the purpose, nature, and / or functioning of such an Office. One Board member raised the critically important issue that part of the general content within the Office of Social Justice Recommendation, might not even be possible (due to Contractual Agreements between the RCSD and employee Bargaining Units). This is also true in the cases of other Recommendations, such as, for example, Recommendations to develop a Youth Council On Instruction; to "consolidate" Parent Liaisons and Home School Assistants (under a single job title and common job-duties), and to change the structure of the Office of Parent Engagement.

Clearly Committee members did not have adequate time to COLLECTIVELY think these Recommendations out in detail. So, what would be the purpose of INDIVIDUAL Committee members "reaching out to board members directly" --- exactly what would they say; what could they legitimately say --- other than the fact that they support the GENERAL RECOMMENDATIONS? Of course individuals could offer their own perspectives regarding details, but that could easily turn into a chaotic catastrophe, and really would defeat the whole purpose of COLLECTIVE-COLLABORATION. So, as I have mentioned to you previously, the ideas outlined in this paragraph represent fundamentally-problematic flaws within the design of your process. This is in fact the reason why I had suggested to you, my belief that you should NOT have restricted the Special Ad-Hoc Committees' work exclusively to a :"45-day" period of time. I had expressed to you that it was virtually impossible to generate quality, detailed, Recommendations within 45 (actually 30) days. By empowering the Special Committees to continue working throughout the Budgetary Process, and probably beyond, would have (still could), not only ensured (ensure) opportunities to work out agreed-upon, details, but also would (could) have helped (help) with the necessary process of increasing awareness, and soliciting additional support from thousands of other RCSD parents and community members, many of whom are not even aware that your process is occurring --- much less being aware of specific Recommendations. It is not realistic or logical to expect that people will support ideas, which they know little or nothing about. In a sense, you seem to be acknowledging this need via your statement that: "Indeed your work on behalf of this community is far from over." If this is in fact the case, then, why are you not continuing to help facilitate an ongoing process relative to Committee members? Based on your latter quote vis-a-vis the manner in which you are operating, the clear dichotomy could easily be interpreted as a matter of sending a dual or mixed message, i.e., what some refer to as "talking-out-of-both-sides-of-your-mouth." I'm just saying.

So again, the manner in which you have chosen to proceed raises the reasonable question and concern (at least in my mind), and I believe in the minds of many others --- as to whether or not this whole process really boils down to more, status-quo-supporting-politics, in which tinkering-around-the-edges-type Recommendations, such as: "Re-examination of the K-8 grade configuration (model); Market research survey of businesses to determine employment needs (i.e. types of skills needed); County-wide survey of parents to determine what kinds of academic programs currently not available would be of interest to them," etc... will prevail, and will then be paraded as representing "proof" that "legitimate" efforts are being made toward much-needed, much-deserved, and way overdue change and improvement for our students and families. In my humble, but staunch view, as you should know from first-hand experience, moving in this direction will no-doubt amount to a disastrous, non-productive outcome --- with the most outstanding example being the outcome and reality of the RCSD's paper-tiger, Department of African And African American Studies.

As I mentioned during my "testimony" at last night's meeting, I believe that your potentially, ground-breaking, change-initiative, will hinge largely on whether or not you (as President of the Board, and catalyst behind the initiative) have the intestinal fortitude to "take-on" Superintendent Vargas and his numerous, powerful, allies --- whom absolutely, clearly, stand in opposition to the direction that you say you want to move in, which is largely reflected and embodied within the Recommendations put forth by the Special Committees, especially those that are SYSTEMIC in nature.

I am unequivocally convinced that, unless you secure widespread, broad-based, concrete, visible, parent and community support for your initiative, the Superintendent and his allies will succeed in continuing to bamboozle and hood-wink the community regarding their ongoing, empty promises that change and improvement is right around the corner; huge numbers of our students and families will continue to suffer, and slick, non-vested, status-quo-supporting, economic blood-suckers' bank accounts will continue to grow.

The bottom line is, in my view, that your leadership ability, skills, and resolve is being tested (perhaps as never before).

If you decide, and of course you don't have much time, to move in a direction that is clearly anti-status-quo --- you have my full support. Otherwise, you do not.

Howard J. Eagle

http://www.scribd.com/doc/210683191/Recomm…

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Posted by Howard J. Eagle on 03/23/2014 at 10:02 AM

Re: “Our anonymous comments

Newspapers should not assume that all commenters have Facebook accounts. I don't have one.

I sign comments with my real name, but if City Newspaper set up their online comments like the D&C, I would stop submitting comments. Therefore, I withdraw my earlier position to eliminate the anonymous comments.

Also, I'm now realizing that there are many different legitimate reasons for wanting anonymity. My only hope is that the increasing numbers that go anonymous unnecessarily, can be encouraged to change.

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Posted by Mike Bruton on 03/22/2014 at 9:51 PM

Re: “Arts & Cultural Council announces move to Kodak Center for Performing Arts

I hate this whole story! Years ago, someone floated the idea (it might have been RBTL or the Philharmonic) of forming an United Way for the arts. Instead, we get stupid magazines, crashed and burned Ren. Sq., and another failure in the making with RAPA...when will we learn?

Try this scenario...City brings together a meeting of the arts groups and tries to gain concensus about what to do before the whole house of cards tumbles!

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Posted by clint on 03/22/2014 at 8:05 PM

Re: “East's problems mirror an unstable district

Hello-
Ms. Remis?

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Posted by Mark Powers on 03/22/2014 at 7:24 PM

Re: “More local boys (and girls) done good

Though she's not a performer, former Rochesterian and Bishop Kearney grad Bernie Caulfield is Executive Producer of the HBO series "Game of Thrones."

Posted by Sarah J on 03/22/2014 at 5:35 PM

Re: “More local boys (and girls) done good

And then there's East Bloomfield's gift to the gay porn world, the legendary Casey Donovan http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Casey_Donovan…

Posted by Fireball Junior on 03/22/2014 at 1:52 PM

Re: “East's problems mirror an unstable district

Ms Remis,

I also wonder how the RTA contract has been “notorious for it's (sic) power to obstruct change.” It seems to me that you apply the fallacy of logic that correlation implies causation. In fact, the RTA contract has not even been constant over the past decades. It is a "living contract" with built-in flexibility for schools to fit certain components to that building's needs or programs.
More importantly to me are the questions of why we do not replicate those components of successful programs or schools that have a track record. I can outline three such components that were implemented at All City High (ACH) that could be replicated at East, but have not been (why I do not know).
Flexible schedule: from 7 am to 7pm allow students to construct a schedule that works for them. More of them will attend.
Employ at least 10 Social Workers and 10 School Counselors to problem solve the root causes of student difficulties in and with schools by engaging with families.
Family of 5 mentoring: Each member of the East High Community could “adopt” 5 students and be a caring stable adult for those kids in their family. Note that at ACH we often had “families of 6, 7 or 8.”

None of these initiatives are outside of the contract or couldn’t be worked out in a memorandum of agreement (MOU) as was done in the case of ACH.

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Posted by MichaelO on 03/22/2014 at 1:18 PM

Re: “More local boys (and girls) done good

I'm not sure these individuals performed before leaving Rochester, but these names quickly came to my mind:

Peter Breck - Big Valley TV show
Foster Brooks - comedian
Louise Brooks - silent film star
Renee Flemming - does opera count as theater?
Robert Forester -Medium Cool (acad. award nomination for supporting actor)
John Lithgow - 2 x supporting actor nominee; 3rd Rock From the Sun
Hugh O'Brien - Wyatt Earp tv series

Posted by Katherine Lubitow on 03/22/2014 at 12:29 PM

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