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Also, you DID mention patriotism:
"So as long as I don’t THINK my side is more patriotic, and I don’t cheer after EVERY phrase a politician says, as long as I weigh matters "soberly" and align myself with you, than it’s ok to chant USA?"
And no one said anything about making rules against cheering or chanting.... or anything. We were all just saying it's kinda creepy.
You write about how it's wrong to put labels on people without knowing what's in their thoughts and hearts, while you then go on to label me and two other commenters as liberalists. Do you see the inconsistency here? I never said I am a liberalist, nor did I even say that I'm Democrat, or Republican, or anything else for that matter.
I would also like to point out that no one called those that were chanting nazis. It was stated that the chanting was reminiscent of a nazi rally, that it had the same frenzied atmosphere. That could be said about many public events where loyalty to a cause or side is strong (sporting events, political rallies, pie eating contests for goodness sake). That is not the same as calling someone a nazi.
I would also like to point out that alot of those " adoring, emotional crowds in Germany" were NOT nazis. They were German citizens cheering a leader that they thought would bring happiness and glory to their country. They were, sadly, wrong. It doesn't make them nazi's.
Sounds to me like snowman is the only calm, rational person commenting on this article... I agree with you entirely!
And chl... snowman didn't say that using free speech to say something is lazy. Not even close. He said "Considering it "love of your country" to just chant your country's name in a big group is not just lazy, it's dangerous." Labeling the chanting as patriotic, by itself, without discussion of the issues is just that. It's correct to say that we DON'T know how informed that crowd is. That is EXACTLY why it is a bad idea to label it as patriotism. They may be the most informed people in the country (in that case, good for them). They might be complete idiots. Either way, allowing one's emotions to decide what should be a rational argument/discussion is simply a bad idea.
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